Deluge of Atlantis

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Sunday, November 3, 2013

DNA shows Irish people have more complex origins than previously thought 

DNA shows Irish people have more complex origins than previously thought

The red-hair gene is most common in Irish blood.
The blood in Irish veins is Celtic, right? Well, not exactly. Although the history many Irish people were taught at school is the history of the Irish as a Celtic race, the truth is much more complicated, and much more interesting than that ...

Research done into the DNA of Irish males has shown that the old Anthropological attempts to define 'Irish' have been misguided. As late as the 1950s researchers were busy collecting data among Irish people such as hair colour and height, in order to categorise them as a 'race' and define them as different to the British. In fact British and Irish people are closely related in their ancestry.

Research into Irish DNA and ancestry has revealed close links with Scotland stretching back to before the Ulster Planation of the early 1600s. But the closest relatives to the Irish in DNA terms are actually from somewhere else entirely!

Medieval map of Ireland

Medieval map of Ireland, showing Irish tribes. Irish origin myths confirmed by modern scientific evidence

Irish Blood: origins of DNA

The earliest settlers came to Ireland around 10,000 years ago, in Stone Age times. There are still remnants of their presence scatter across the island. Mountsandel in Coleraine in the North of Ireland is the oldest known site of settlement in Ireland - remains of woven huts, stone tools and food such as berries and hazelnuts were discovered at the site in 1972.

But where did the early Irish come from?
For a long time the myth of Irish history has been that the Irish are Celts. Many people still refer to Irish, Scottish and Welsh as Celtic culture - and the assumtion has been that they were Celts who migrated from central Europe around 500BCE. Keltoi was the name given by the Ancient Greeks to a 'barbaric' (in their eyes) people who lived to the north of them in central Europe. While early Irish art shows some similarities of style to central European art of the Keltoi, historians have also recognised many significant differences between the two cultures.

The latest research into Irish DNA has confirmed that the early inhabitants of Ireland were not directly descended from the Keltoi of central Europe. In fact the closest genetic relatives of the Irish in Europe are to be found in the north of Spain in the region known as the Basque Country. These same ancestors are shared to an extent with the people of Britain - especially the Scottish.

DNA testing through the male Y chromosome has shown that Irish males have the highest incidence of the haplogroup R1 gene in Europe. While other parts of Europe have integrated contiuous waves of new settlers from Asia, Ireland's remote geographical position has meant that the Irish gene-pool has been less susceptible to change. The same genes have been passed down from parents to children for thousands of years.

This is mirrored in genetic studies which have compared DNA analysis with Irish surnames. Many surnames in Irish are Gaelic surnames, suggesting that the holder of the surname is a descendant of people who lived in Ireland long before the English conquests of the Middle Ages. Men with Gaelic surnames, showed the highest incidences of Haplogroup R1 (or Rb1) gene. This means that those Irish whose ancestors pre-date English conquest of the island are direct descendants of early stone age settlers who migrated from Spain.

Irish and British DNA

The Kingdom of Dalriada c 500 AD is marked in green. Pictish areas marked yellow. Irish and British DNA : a comparison
Irish origin myths confirmed by modern scientific evidence

One of the oldest texts composed in Ireland is the Leabhar Gabhla, the Book of Invasions. It tells a semi-mythical history of the waves of people who settled in Ireland in earliest time. It says the first settlers to arrive in Ireland were a small dark race called the Fir Bolg, followed by a magical super-race called the Tuatha de Danaan (the people of the goddess Dana).

Most interestingly, the book says that the group which then came to Ireland and fully established itself as rulers of the island were the Milesians - the sons of Mil, the soldier from Spain. Modern DNA research has actually confirmed that the Irish are close genetic relatives of the people of northern Spain.

While it might seem strange that Ireland was populated from Spain rather than Britain or France, it is worth remembering that in ancient times the sea was one of the fastest and easiest ways to travel. When the land was covered in thick forest, coastal settlements were common and people travelled around the seaboard of Europe quite freely.

I live in Northern Ireland and in this small country the differences between the Irish and the British can still seem very important. Blood has been spilt over the question of national identity.

However, the lastest research into both British and Irish DNA suggests that people on the two islands have much genetically in common. Males in both islands have a strong predominance of Haplogroup 1 gene, meaning that most of us in the British Isles are descended from the same Spanish stone age settlers.

The main difference is the degree to which later migrations of people to the islands affected the population's DNA. Parts of Ireland (most notably the western seaboard) have been almost untouched by outside genetic influence since hunter-gatherer times. Men there with traditional Irish surnames have the highest incidence of the Haplogroup R1 gene - over 99%.

At the same time London, for example, has been a mutli-ethnic city for hundreds of years. Furthermore, England has seen more arrivals of new people from Europe - Anglo-Saxons and Normans - than Ireland. Therefore while the earliest English ancestors were very similar in DNA and culture to the tribes of Ireland, later arrivals to England have created more diversity between the two groups.

Irish and Scottish people share very similar DNA. The obvious similarities of culture, pale skin, tendancy to red hair have historically been prescribed to the two people's sharing a common celtic ancestry. Actually it now seems much more likely that the similarity results from the movement of people from the north of Ireland into Scotland in the centuries 400 - 800 AD. At this time the kingdom of Dalriada, based near Ballymoney in County Antrim extended far into Scotland. The Irish invaders brought Gaelic language and culture, and they also brought their genes.


Irish Characteristics and DNA

The MC1R gene has been identified by researchers as the gene responsible for red hair as well as the accompanying fair skin and tendency towards freckles. According to recent research, genes for red hair first appeared in human beings about 40,000 to 50,000 years ago.

These genes were then brought to the British Isles by the original settlers, men and women who would have been relatively tall, with little body fat, athletic, fair-skinned and who would have had red hair. So red-heads may well be descended from the earliest ancestors of the Irish and British.

A spoof (and very funny) exploration into the characteristics of all Irish-blooded males can be read at this link: Identified genes include IMG or the Irish Mother Gene and the GK (MF) S Gene Kelly-Michael-Flately-Syndrome which explains the inability of the Irish man to move his hips while dancing!

Marie McKeown lives in Ireland where she works on community projects, teaching arts workshops and conflict resolution skills. She also teach workshops on self-care and personal development. She has many interests including health, creative writing, travel, history, and my native Ireland. She graduated with a degree in Spanish and Medieval History and has lived in Spain and East Asia and Latin America.
[The "Spanish" ancestors of the Western Europeans were the Longbarrow Megalith Builders called Iberians by Donnelly. Yes, this idea has been around for a very long time!.
The "Earliest Settlers who carried the Redheaded gene were the classic Cro-Magnons and they acquired the gene through a cross with the Neanderthals, who had it earlier. The Ancestors of the Iberians that introduced the R1 genes to Western Europe were the Atlanteans, who had introduced the same gene into North America.  All of this is well  supported by scientific study and it is what we have already been saying here from before. Thank you for listening to my rant.-DD]


  1. Stonehenge,,
    was made by those who were known as the Megalith Builders, those who preceded the Celtic immigration into that region,
    who even proceeded the Celtic Druids .
    The Druids became the inheritors of the Race that went before them and they were taught to use Stonehenge which is a Space Portal, a Time / Space worm hole when properly used and aligned.
    The Megalith builders themselves were descendants of the Race known as the Atlantians and that area as well as many other areas in the Ireland, Britain and Europe,
    and in the Mediterranean,
    In Egypt for example were colonies of the Atlantians who themselves were the Race who had arcane information and knowledge.
    There was Extraterrestrial activity as well to help assemble the Stones of Stonehenge to raise the lentl Cap Stones to put the uprights upright. This technology of course was subsonic's and Sound, and that was used as well in the construction of the Pyramids,
    The Structure of Stonehenge is much older than the authorities wish you to accept.
    That estimations of approximately 8 to 9,000 years are closer to the truth of when they were built other than only a few thousand years ago.
    This was still a time after the collapse of Atlantis and the Race who created this were also the race in Ireland known as the Tuatha de Danaan and these are the same Race of Mummies that were found in China and also built the Mounds in North American, especially the mounds on the Eastern Coast the USA,

    This Race of People were the People who went before the ones that are now known as the Megalith Builder's, a Mysterious group that is little known about and they were known to the Ancient Irish Celts as the Tuatha de Danaan,
    they are the Red-haired Blue-eyed individuals, the Native Americans speak of and are spoken of around the World in their connection to the Ancient times, to the Atlantians and Atlantis itself.
    The Tuatha de Danaan still had the knowledge and Technologies of their forefathers and used this Technology to create Stonehenge.
    there were other sites also that were used that have been lost but Stonehenge is one that is still available. There will be other sites found: some under Sea,
    there are sites as you well know in Peru where the Tuatha de danaan also Played a part..

    There are Ancient sites all around the Planet,
    some under Sea, some underground, some on the Surface, but all remnants have being removed or destroyed,
    but nonetheless new evidence will be found, new understanding, information brought forward for they will play a role again as they are destined to return from the state of consciousness where they reside to help the forward progress of the Planet as it moves into its new level of consciousness and assumes her new rightful place, but this is still ahead.

    Stonehenge will be rediscovered as a Worm Hole a Star gate of great Significance and even though it is not full and in tact, it is still highly likely it will in time.

  2. Incidentally on the west Coast of Ireland theres a place called the Burren,, its a desolate barren place of terrible beauty,, old folk lore have many storys of a Giant Tsunami,,they say it was over 12000 years ago,,now that puts it at the time of the Fall of Atlantis and it fits in well with the story ..

  3. The Megalith builders of Europe were of two types, basically a short dark type and a taller type with a redheaded element. Both seem equivalent to the USA moundbuilders or Hopewells and Adenaas respectively, the latter giving rise to the Mound Giants. Donnelly also mentions the Atlanteans seem to have had a smaller type and a larger type-by inference, and from the size of the tools. The smaller dark race seems to have started Stonehenge as a henge-a circular earthen ditch and wall enclosure-but the "Giants Dance" of standing stones was the work of the taller race-the giants who seem connected to the US moundbuilder giants because of the shape of their skulls and othr features.

  4. Have a Look at this about the Disaster 12'000 Years ago,,
    I go along with this,,,

  5. This is very good,

  6. Celtic is in reality a linguistic/cultural term. The majority of the population in Ireland arrived probably in neolithic times. Those bearing Celtic culture probably came much later.Their Celtic language, representing a cultural superiority, probably displaced previously spoken languages. The Tuatha De Danaan is in fact the name given to the Celtic gods worshipped by the culture - they had counterparts amongst the ancient British and in the Celtic culture on continental Europe. The Leabhar Gabhala should not be treated as historical. It was a compilation made by poets after the arrival of Christianity. It may contain the odd historical element. Whether the Irish migrated from Spain or were pre-Indo-European inhabitants of other parts of Europe who were ultimately descended from the same racial group that was also ancestor of the Basques seems to be a moot point.

  7. Actually speaking from the standpoint of Physical Anthropology these ancestors are properly termed Iberians (as a physical type) and the Basques are largely the modern manifestation of the Iberians (ie, the Longbarrow-Longheaded Mediterraneanoid Megalith Builders): and on top of that the use of the term "Celtic Type" has recently been revived to mean the R1 Y-DNA settlers of Western Europe, also corresponding in distribution to the Megalith builders of Europe. Both matters have been discussed on this blog recently.


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