Deluge of Atlantis

Deluge of Atlantis
Deluge of Atlantis

Saturday, November 30, 2013

Giant Skeleton Talk

Greater ancestors world museum Posters Album.
The poster image, was created by Chris Lesley. The high resolution poster of Veroman is available for sale at the GAWM Museum. The original location for that image is on that facebook page.

From Facebook, one of several mound skeletons said to have been 12 feet tall. 12 feet is about my limit. The following image comes from a similar posting about Etowah Mounds in Georgia,to demonstrate just how large 12 foot tall humans would be

Friday, November 29, 2013


These photos were sent in by Teresa Drusin, a longtime follower and sometime contributor to this blog. The megaliths in the photographs come from Karyamukti, Campaka, Cianjur, West Java, Indonesia and they represent the largest and oldest megalithic complex in the world, dating back to more than 7000 years old, and it seems there was a large settlement complex that was thrown into ruin at a very early time, possibly connected to the oldr eruption of Krakatoa.  Before destruction this looks like it would have been a large settlement similar to the ruins on Ponape, in Micronesia.

Gunungpadang site is the site of prehistoric megalithic cultural heritage in West Java. Precisely located on the border hamlet and Panggulan Gunungpadang, Karyamukti Village, District Campaka, Cianjur. Vast complex "building" approximately 900 m², situated at an altitude of 885 m above sea level, and the site area is about 3 ha, making it the largest terraces punden complex in Southeast Asia. consider the findings of previous researchers in the Gunung Padang just plain megalithic sites. The results of the drilling team found a base layer of the building foundation was 4700 BC. Older than the pyramids of Giza in Egypt 3500 BC old.

Gunung Padang is a megalithic site located in Karyamukti village, Cianjur regency, West Java Province of Indonesia, 50 km south-west of the city of Cianjur or 6 kilometers from Lampegan station. It is the largest megalithic site in South-Eastern Asia.
The existence of the site is mentioned in Rapporten van de Oudheidkundige Dienst (ROD, "Report of the Department of Antiquities") in 1914. The Dutch historian N. J. Krom also mentioned it in 1949. Employees of National Archeology Research Centre visited the site in 1979 for a study of archaeology, history and geology.
Located at 885 metres above sea level, the site covers a hill in a series of terraces bordered by retaining walls of stone that are accessed by successive steps (about 400 andesit steps = 95 metres). It is covered with massive rectangular stones of volcanic origin. Sundanese People consider the place as sacred and believe the site as a result of King Siliwangi attempt to build a palace in one night. The asymmetric Punden Berundak is facing up to northwest, to Mount Gede,[1] mainly constructed for the purpose of worship and built in a position that has been noticed geomantic and astromantic factors. Based on megalith shape the site is built in 1,500 years BC.[2]
The villages closest to the site are Cimanggu, Ciwangun and Cipanggulakan. Two routes are possible to get there:
  • From Sukabumi to Cianjur: From Warungkondang to Cipadang, Cibokor, Lampegan Pal Dua, Ciwangin, Cimanggu.
  • From Cianjur to Sukabumi: From Sukaraja to Cireungas, Cibanteng, Rawabesar, Sukamukti and Cipanggulaan

2012 survey

A survey conducted in 2012 showed the following:[3][4]
  • The site was dated 6,500 years BP by carbon radiometric dating in 3 to 4 metres below the surface (12,500 years in 8 to 10 metres below the surface) and the artefacts at the surface about 4,800 years BP
  • Based on geoelectric, georadar and geomagnetic testing at least up to 15 metres from the surface there is construction with big chambers
  • Not as south side with 5 stone terraces, in east side has 100 stone terraces with width and height 2x2 metres, in west side there are also stone terraces but is still covered by soil and bush, in north side besides 1.5 metre-wide stair there also terraces
  • The site area is approximately 25 hectares (Borobudur Temple is only 1.5 hectares)
  • Wall side construction of terraces is similar with Machu Pichu in Peru
Another survey used GSSI georadar, Multi-Channel SuperSting R-8 and Geomagnet GEM-Ovenhausser gave:[5]
  • There are structures beyond Mount Padang structure
  • Carbon dating by Beta Analytic, Miami, Florida between 3 and 12 meters suggests the structure could date 16,000 years BP.[6]

2013 survey

The structure beyond the Mount Padang structure is older than the upper structure. In depth of 1-4.5 meters by Beta Analytic Radiocarbon Dating (BETA) the older (below) structure is built in 4,500 BC, whether the upper structure in 500 BC. At 4.5 meter depth there are stones with specie which consist of 45 percent ferrum, 15 percent clay and the rest silica. The surveyor found a 10 centimetre steel fraction.[7]
The Independent Research Integrated Mount Padang Team, facilitated by the Special Staff of President for Social Assistance and Disaster, found man-made stone structures beneath the ancient site of Mount Padang, at Karyamukti Village, the District of Campaka, Cianjur Regency. According to the result of survey of team who did an archaeological excavation and geoelectric surveys on the eastern slopes of the hill in March 2013, the structure of column andesite stone was found with near horizontal position elongated east-west. {fact}
"From the horizontal position of the column andesite rocks and its line direction, we can conclude with certainty that the column stones or" columnar joints "is not in a natural condition," said Danny H. Natawidjaja, Coordinator of The Independent Research Integrated Mount Padang Team in Jakarta, Tuesday (2/4). In excavation, the archaeological team which is led by Ali Akbar from the University of Indonesia found the evidence to confirm the hypothesis of team that there are man-made structures in the basement of Mount Padang. The building structure is the same as with the structure of the stone terrace which has been revealed and become cultural sites on the hill.
The excavation also found a filler material among the stones columns, also a stone column that had been shattered but styled and put together again by the filler material as ancient cement.
The ancient cement has also been found on canyon railroads between the porch steps one and two, and also on drill core samples from a depth of 1 to 15 meters of drilling conducted by the team in 2012 and then on the site.
The geologist team and also the centre coaches of Indonesian Association of Geologists centre, Andang Bachtiar discovered previously unknown facts about the composition of the site. The cement material has a primary composition of 45% of iron mineral and 41% of mineral silica. The rest is 14% clay minerals and there is also a carbon element. "This is a good composition for strong cement adhesive, perhaps combining between the concepts of resin or modern strong adhesive made from silica materials and the use of concentration of the iron element which become as brick amplifiers," said Danny H. Natawidjaja.
The high content of silica indicates that the cement is not the result of weathering of column andesite rocks which is surrounded by a poor of silica. Then, the levels of iron in nature, even in the rocks at the ore mineral mining, generally the content of iron is not more than 5%, so iron levels in "Gunung Padang cement" is many times higher than natural conditions. Therefore it can be concluded that material which is lied between the columns andesite stones are man-made grout. So the technology of that time seems to have known metallurgy. One common technique to obtain a high concentration of iron is to carry out the combustion process from the broken rocks with very high temperatures. Similar to the making of bricks, which burn caolinite and illite clays to produce a high concentration of iron on the brick, explain Andang.
Indications of ancient metallurgical technology is more strengthened by the findings of a lump of metal materials sized 10 inches by the team of Ali Akbar at the depth of 1 meter on the eastern slopes of Mount Padang. The rusty metal material possessed a rough surface with a hollow-small cavity on the surface. Presumably this material is a metal dough residue ("slug") that mixed with carbon material from the combustion of wood, coal or other. Cavities are likely to occur due to the release of CO2 when burning. The team will conduct further laboratory analysis to investigate.
The results of radiometric analysis of the content of the carbon element in some samples of cement in drill core from the depth of 5–15 meters which was conducted in 2012 at the prestigious Laboratory, BETALAB, Miami, USA in the mid-2012 shows its age with a range between 13,000 and 23,000 years BP. Previously, the results of carbon dating which carried out in the BATAN laboratory, the dominant quartz sand that fills the voids between the columns of andesite at the depth of 8–10 meters below the terrace of five also showed the same age range is about 13,000 years ago.
Data from drilling conducted by Andang Bachtiar and microscopic analyzes of rocks from drill core samples were carried out by Andri Subandrio, geologist of volcanic rocks of the Petrology laboratory ITB. it can be assured that the high resistivity body rock is andesite lava rock, the same rock type as the column of the site of mount Padang. {fact}
Another thing discovered from the petrological analysis is the finding of many microscopic cracks in the thin section of andesite stone columns that are allegedly non-natural because the cracks cut its constituent mineral crystals.
Danny H. Natawidjaja stated that mount Padang has same potency with Borobudur, even it is more meaningful because it can be a breakthrough of knowledge about "the cradle of civilizations" in this century, as a proof of the great monuments of the oldest civilizations in the glorious world that destroyed because of catastrophe thousands of years ago in the pre-history of Indonesia.
"It is not impossible anymore if Indonesia as archipelago nation has civilization as advanced as the ancient Egyptian civilization, even in the much older", said Danny H. Natawidjaja.[8]
The latest research found that the site consists of 4 layers, first layer age was 600 years BC, the second layer age was 4,900 years BC, and the third and the fourth layers are still being researched by Terpadu Mandiri (Indonesian Unified) Research Team.[9]


Some people refuse the tomography research with coring the soil and torture 3 researchers, because the anarchist people think the coring will spoil the site and maybe trigger the landslide.[10]


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Comet ISON Goes Round the Sun

Comet ISON's Thanksgiving Sun Encounter: An Observer's Guide

The incoming Comet ISON is now in the home stretch of its long-awaited hairpin loop around the sun on Thanksgiving Day (Nov. 28), making it a great target for amateur astronomers and stargazers. But there are some tips and info you'll want to keep in mind before you go comet hunting.
Comet ISON is on track for an extremely close shave of the sun when it flies by Earth's closest star on Nov. 28. The comet will approach within a mere 730,000 miles (1.2 million kilometers) of the sun during the encounter, leading many scientists and amateur astronomers to wonder if the comet will survive its Thanksgiving Day rendezvous with the sun.
In December, Comet ISON is expected to reach its greatest brilliance. It is during that month that it will be most interesting to both amateurs and the public. [See more amazing photos of Comet ISON in the night sky]

Although forecasting the brightness of a comet months before its arrival at perihelion has always been hazardous, in the case of ISON until recently its brightening trend has been very difficult to decipher. Up until Nov. 13, the comet's increase in brightness was progressing at a rather sluggish pace, but then suddenly a noticeable outburst began taking place.

Comet ISON's brilliant flare-up The incoming Comet ISON is now in the home stretch of its long-awaited hairpin loop around the sun on Thanksgiving Day (Nov. 28), making it a great target for amateur astronomers and stargazers. But there are some tips and info you'll want to keep in mind before you go comet hunting. Comet ISON is on track for an extremely close shave of the sun when it flies by Earth's closest star on Nov. 28. The comet will approach within a mere 730,000 miles (1.2 million kilometers) of the sun during the encounter, leading many scientists and amateur astronomers to wonder if the comet will survive its Thanksgiving Day rendezvous with the sun. Infographic: Facts about Comet ISON, which could provide a spectacular display in late 2013. The deep-frozen Comet ISON could blaze spectacularly as it whips past the sun at Thanksgiving 2013. Learn all about Comet ISON's 2013 visit to the inner solar system in this infographic. Credit: Karl Tate, contributor In December, Comet ISON is expected to reach its greatest brilliance. It is during that month that it will be most interesting to both amateurs and the public. [See more amazing photos of Comet ISON in the night sky] Although forecasting the brightness of a comet months before its arrival at perihelion has always been hazardous, in the case of ISON until recently its brightening trend has been very difficult to decipher. Up until Nov. 13, the comet's increase in brightness was progressing at a rather sluggish pace, but then suddenly a noticeable outburst began taking place. Comet ISON Nov. 26, 2013, Sky Map Where to look for Comet ISON low in early dawn on the morning of November 26th. Mercury and Saturn will be much brighter; start with them to find the spot to examine for the comet with binoculars. (The comet symbol is exaggerated.) For scale, this scene is about twice as wide as your fist held at arm's length. Credit: View full size image Comet ISON's brilliant flare-up

From Nov. 13 to 21, Comet ISON brightened by 3.5 magnitudes on the scale used to determine the brightness of objects in space. That's a 25-fold increase in brightness to the observer! Between Nov. 19 and 21 alone, ISON more than doubled in brightness. Along with this surge in activity, soaring rates of dust and gas were being released from its nucleus.
Amateur and professional astronomers around the world have been tracking Comet ISON in telescopes, with NASA spacecraft and other observatories tracking the object from space.
In the wake of this recent activity, experienced comet watchers are growing more confident that the comet has a chance to be ranked among one of the brightest in the last half century. "All this I regard as very promising for something quite significant to be seen from ISON come the early days of December," comet expert John Bortle said. [How to Photograph Comet ISON (Step-by-Step Gallery)]
In fact, at its very brightest Comet ISON may even become briefly visible in broad daylight!
But just how impressive the comet will look after it sweeps around the sun will be strongly dependant on where you are located. From rural areas, where the night skies are still reasonably dark, the comet could evolve into a celestial showpiece — perhaps even a showstopper. Conversely, from major metropolitan areas under urban, light polluted skies, viewers will be largely disappointed.
Bright Comet ISON on Nov. 19
Comet ISON shines brightly in this image taken on the morning of Nov. 19, 2013. This is a 10-second exposure taken with the Marshall Space Flight Center 20" telescope in New Mexico. The camera there is black and white, but the smaller field of view allows for a better "zoom in" on the comet's coma, which is essentially the head of the comet.
Credit: NASA/MSFC/MEO/Cameron McCarty
Skirting above a solar furnace
Comet ISON's closest approach to the sun will mark the perihelion of its orbit around the star. That will occur on Nov. 28 at 1:38 p.m. EST (1838 GMT). During the encounter, the comet will rapidly approach the sun, and its brightness will likely increase sharply. [Comet ISON's Stargazing Show: 8 Essential Facts]
It is very difficult to say precisely just how bright Comet ISON will ultimately become when it passes nearly 730,000 miles of the 11,000-degrees Fahrenheit surface of the sun, while being subjected to enormous tidal and gravitation forces that could cause the comet to fracture into pieces. If this happens, it could release a tremendous amount of dust causing the comet to become many times brighter and unfurl a tremendously bright tail.
As the comet loops around the sun, and begins its return journey out of the inner solar system, it "may" be dimly visible in daylight by merely blocking out the sun with your hand. Soon after sunrise, ISON will be positioned within about 2 degrees to the right of the sun. During the rest of the day, the comet will appear to get closer to the sun, while rapidly moving in a clockwise fashion below and then to the sun's left. The comet will appear closest to the sun just before 2 p.m. EST (1900 GMT) when it will appear less than half the apparent width of the sun from the sun's limb, or edge. The comet's velocity as it whips in a hairpin turn around the sun will reach a maximum of 234.62 miles per second or 844,632 mph (1.3 million km/h)!

Heed this warning!
We strongly warn all readers that only experienced observers should attempt observation of Comet ISON as it whips around the sun. Viewing the comet itself poses no danger, but potential danger lies in staring directly at the sun whose infrared rays can burn the retina of the eye without causing any pain. John Bortle agrees: "When it's within just a few hours of its perihelion ISON will be so close to the solar limb it will be an impossible task to spot for virtually all observers." [How to See Comet ISON in November Sky | Video]
You can safely watch the comet whip around the sun on your computer here from the Large Angle and Spectrometric Coronagraph Experiment (LASCO) on the SOHO spacecraft.  ISON should be within LASCO’s field of view from 7 a.m. EST (1200 GMT) on Nov. 27 to 7 p.m. EST on Nov. 29 (0000 Nov. 28 GMT).
Soon after perihelion, perhaps on the mornings of Nov. 29 and/or 30, the ghostly dust tail might be visible low in the eastern sky, but the comet's brilliant head will still be embedded deep in the morning twilight.

  Below is a look at Comet ISON's expected behavior in the coming weeks, given in 10-day intervals.
December 1-10: The changes in the comet wrought by perihelion passage become evident. Possibly the comet is brighter than expected during the first few days of this period. On Dec. 1, the tail could be as much as 12 degrees long (your clenched fist held at arm’s length measures roughly 10 degrees).
Because of ISON's close passage to the sun, the tail could appear very bright, while the comet's head might appear zero magnitude (as bright as the stars Vega or Capella), and perhaps brighter. Each morning the tail shoots out from the head like a narrow searchlight beam and will increase conspicuously in length as ISON backs into darker morning skies. The comet's head begins to rise before the onset of morning twilight — about 100 minutes before sunrise — on Dec. 6 and the tail length reaches to perhaps 20 degrees by Dec. 10. The comet's brightness by Dec. 10 should subside to between magnitude +3 (a star of medium brightness) and +5 (a faint star); the comet will have receded to 51.4 million miles (82.7 million kilometers) from the sun.      
Comet ISON Sky Map December 2013
Comet ISON's position in December 2013 is shown on this sky map.
December 11-20:Comet ISON's altitude at the break of dawn increases from 13 degrees on Dec. 11 to 22 degrees on Dec. 15. The latter date will be the last morning in December that ISON can be viewed in a completely dark sky; the bright Moon that morning sets at 5:25 a.m. local time and twilight begins at 5:33 a.m. local time. So you will have just an eight-minute window of complete darkness. The full moon of December will occur on the following day.
But within a few days, attention will shift to evening visibility as the moon will be setting about an hour later each night while the comet begins to become increasingly evident low in the northwest sky after sunset. On Dec. 20, Comet ISON sets at 6:24 p.m. local time, 14 minutes after the end of evening twilight.
Meanwhile, the distance between the Earth and comet is rapidly decreasing to 42.5 million miles (68.3 million km) by Dec. 20. The comet will be in the constellation of Corona Borealis, the brightness of the head should hover somewhere between magnitude +4 (the brightness of a moderately faint star) and +6 (a very faint star at the threshold of naked-eye visibility). By this time, the ghostly tail may appear to reach 20 degrees to 30 degrees.

December 21-31: With the moon completely absent from the evening sky and Comet ISON climbing noticeably higher in the north-northwest sky with each passing evening, the full splendor of the comet is revealed. But again we stress — observers must get away from the bright lights of cities to view the comet in all its glory — seen against a dark backdrop it could be a sight not to be forgotten.
On Christmas Day, Comet SON has moved far enough northward in declination to become a circumpolar object; that is, it does not rise nor set but remains above the horizon all night long.  The comet's closest approach to the Earth comes the following day: At 5:42 p.m. EST (2242 GMT), it will be 39,897,562 miles (64,208,902 km)away. The total light of the coma should continue to hold somewhere between magnitude +4 and +6. As seen against a very dark sky with the unaided eye, the comet’s coma may appear half the diameter of the full moon. The gas tail should span many degrees, while the much brighter dust tail will continue to stretch toward the north for at least 20 degrees — even 40 degrees is possible.
January 1-10: The rest of Comet ISON's night sky display will seem anticlimactic, for the comet shrinks and fades rapidly now as it pulls away from both the sun and the Earth, with the magnitude dropping from perhaps +6 to +8 — below the threshold of naked-eye visibility even under a dark sky. The coma is expected to be quite large and diffuse, growing more so daily. Very straight and narrow, the tail initially should be traceable some 10 degrees to 15 degrees shortening to possibly down to 5 degrees by Dec. 10. The Great Comet is now only a ghost of its former self and is best seen in binoculars.
Editor's note: If you snap an amazing picture of Comet ISON or any other night sky view that you'd like to share for a possible story or image gallery, send photos, comments and your name and location to managing editor Tariq Malik at
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Joe Rao serves as an instructor and guest lecturer at New York's Hayden Planetarium. He writes about astronomy for Natural History magazine, the Farmer's Almanac and other publications, and he is also an on-camera meteorologist for News 12 Westchester, N.Y. Follow us @Spacedotcom, Facebook and Google+. Original article on


Thursday, November 28, 2013

Ancient Atlantic Crossers Part 1

Submission by Terry Colvin:

Who were the ancient Atlantic Ocean Crossers?
Also known as  the 'Atlanteans'       Part I
The Sea peoples aka 'Atlanteans' were the original Danuna/Danaans and ancient 'Palestinians' (written and pronounced 'Philistines' in O.T.), also 'Shikila,' and by many other names,  also Lukka (as in 'Lucky' star/Loki, a Norse god), et al.  Note the facsimile engraved boats shown are shaped like their Sumerian and Egyptian counterpart reed canal gondolas.  These types were also built in the Americas (still in Peru and Southern California) along with other style gondolas and canoes.  Also note the seahorse dragon's heads and tails denoting these as Phoenicians, Makenyas/Achaeans (later known as 'Vikings'/Danes).  Also shown below is the transport of horses by these arked ships which were known as 'Arks/Barks.'  To get on a ship:  'to embark';  those who got on a ship:  'embarkaderos.'

Ancient Assyrian reed canal gondolas still sail on lake Titicaca, Peru to this day.
Also note feathered headdress of Phoenician warrior above, left; Assyrian warrior below, compared with Amazonian feathered headgear also shown below.  Center photo shows 'Amazonian-Chinese' descendent  wearing style of the 'Assyrian/Phoenician/Aztec'  warrior  headdress.
headgear amazon indian feathered headdressIndian high headdress
To be continued ...

Wednesday, November 27, 2013

Possible meteorite strike in western Quebec region

In case nobody has noticed we are getting a lot of reports of fireballs and large meteorite strikes lately and it seems to be part of a larger overall pattern

Speculation rampant of possible meteorite strike in western Quebec region 

Tuesday, November 26, 2013

What Really Happened at the First Thanksgiving?

This is a popular image of the first Thanksgiving, a painting by Jean Leon Gerome Ferris. But this is definitely NOT what happened.

[The traditional image of "Indians and Pilgrms"sitting together for a harvest feast is a recent recasting of the historical facts. In fact, since the initial contact between the colonists and the Natives, "Thanksgiving" was used by the colonists as giving gratitude that they had managed to massacre the Natives once again.  In 1641, a raid against the members of the Pequot tribe in Connecticut was very successful, and the churches declared a day of "Thanksgiving" to celebrate.  During this feast, the decapitated heads of Natives were kicked through the streets of Manhattan. Many towns in New England held regular thanksgiving days to celebrate victories over the Natives.-DD]

What Really Happened at the First Thanksgiving? The Wampanoag Side of the Tale

When you hear about the Pilgrims and “the Indians” harmoniously sharing the “first Thanksgiving” meal in 1621, the Indians referred to so generically are the ancestors of the contemporary members of the Wampanoag Nation. As the story commonly goes, the Pilgrims who sailed from England on the Mayflower and landed at what became Plymouth, Massachusetts, in 1620 had a good harvest the next year. So Plymouth Gov. William Bradford organized a feast to celebrate the harvest and invited a group of “Native American allies, including the Wampanoag chief Massasoit” to the party. The feast lasted three days and, according to chronicler Edward Winslow, Bradford send four men on a “fowling mission” to prepare for the feast and the Wampanoag guests brought five deer to the party. And ever since then, the story goes, Americans have celebrated Thanksgiving on the fourth Thursday of November. Not exactly, Ramona Peters, the Mashpee Wampanoag Tribe’s Tribal Historic Preservation Officer told Indian Country Today Media Network in a conversation on the day before Thanksgiving 2012—391 years since that mythological “first Thanksgiving.”

We know what we’re taught in mainstream media and in schools is made up. What’s the Wampanoag version of what happened?
Yeah, it was made up. It was Abraham Lincoln who used the theme of Pilgrims and Indians eating happily together. He was trying to calm things down during the Civil War when people were divided. It was like a nice unity story.
So it was a political thing?
Yes, it was public relations. It’s kind of genius, in a way, to get people to sit down and eat dinner together. Families were divided during the Civil War.
So what really happened?
We made a treaty. The leader of our nation at the time—Yellow Feather Oasmeequin [Massasoit] made a treaty with (John) Carver [the first governor of the colony]. They elected an official while they were still on the boat. They had their charter. They were still under the jurisdiction of the king [of England]—at least that’s what they told us. So they couldn’t make a treaty for a boatload of people so they made a treaty between two nations—England and the Wampanoag Nation.
What did the treaty say?
It basically said we’d let them be there and we would protect them against any enemies and they would protect us from any of ours. [The 2011 Native American copy coin commemorates the 1621 treaty between the Wampanoag tribe and the Pilgrims of Plymouth colony.] It was basically an I’ll watch your back, you watch mine’ agreement. Later on we collaborated on jurisdictions and creating a system so that we could live together.
What’s the Mashpee version of the 1621 meal?
You’ve probably heard the story of how Squanto assisted in their planting of corn? So this was their first successful harvest and they were celebrating that harvest and planning a day of their own thanksgiving. And it’s kind of like what some of the Arab nations do when they celebrate by shooting guns in the air. So this is what was going on over there at Plymouth. They were shooting guns and canons as a celebration, which alerted us because we didn’t know who they were shooting at. So Massasoit gathered up some 90 warriors and showed up at Plymouth prepared to engage, if that was what was happening, if they were taking any of our people. They didn’t know. It was a fact-finding mission.
When they arrived it was explained through a translator that they were celebrating the harvest, so we decided to stay and make sure that was true, because we’d seen in the other landings—[Captain John] Smith, even the Vikings had been here—so we wanted to make sure so we decided to camp nearby for a few days. During those few days, the men went out to hunt and gather food—deer, ducks, geese, and fish. There are 90 men here and at the time I think there are only 23 survivors of that boat, the Mayflower, so you can imagine the fear. You have armed Natives who are camping nearby. They [the colonists] were always vulnerable to the new land, new creatures, even the trees—there were no such trees in England at that time. People forget they had just landed here and this coastline looked very different from what it looks like now. And their culture—new foods, they were afraid to eat a lot of things. So they were very vulnerable and we did protect them, not just support them, we protected them. You can see throughout their journals that they were always nervous and, unfortunately, when they were nervous they were very aggressive.
So the Pilgrims didn’t invite the Wampanoags to sit down and eat turkey and drink some beer?
[laughs] Ah, no. Well, let’s put it this way. People did eat together [but not in what is portrayed as “the first Thanksgiving]. It was our homeland and our territory and we walked all through their villages all the time. The differences in how they behaved, how they ate, how they prepared things was a lot for both cultures to work with each other. But in those days, it was sort of like today when you go out on a boat in the open sea and you see another boat and everyone is waving and very friendly—it’s because they’re vulnerable and need to rely on each other if something happens. In those days, the English really needed to rely on us and, yes, they were polite as best they could be, but they regarded us as savages nonetheless.
So you did eat together sometimes, but not at the legendary Thanksgiving meal.
No. We were there for days. And this is another thing: We give thanks more than once a year in formal ceremony for different season, for the green corn thanksgiving, for the arrival of certain fish species, whales, the first snow, our new year in May—there are so many ceremonies and I think most cultures have similar traditions. It’s not a foreign concept and I think human beings who recognize greater spirit then they would have to say thank you in some formal way.
What are Mashpee Wampanoags taught about Thanksgiving now?
Most of us are taught about the friendly Indians and the friendly Pilgrims and people sitting down and eating together. They really don’t go into any depth about that time period and what was going on in 1620. It was a whole different mindset. There was always focus on food because people had to work hard to go out and forage for food, not the way it is now. I can remember being in Oklahoma amongst a lot of different tribal people when I was in junior college and Thanksgiving was coming around and I couldn’t come home—it was too far and too expensive—and people were talking about, Thanksgiving, and, yeah, the Indians! And I said, yeah, we’re the Wampanoags. They didn’t know! We’re not even taught what kind of Indians, Hopefully, in the future, at least for Americans, we do need to get a lot brighter about other people.
So, basically, today the Wampanoag celebrate Thanksgiving the way Americans celebrate it, or celebrate it as Americans?
Yes, but there’s another element to this that needs to be noted as well. The Puritans believed in Jehovah and they were listening for Jehovah’s directions on a daily basis and trying to figure out what would please their God. So for Americans, for the most part there’s a Christian element to Thanksgiving so formal prayer and some families will go around the table and ask what are you thankful for this year. In Mashpee families we make offerings of tobacco. For traditionalists, we give thanks to our first mother, our human mother, and to Mother Earth. Then, because there’s no real time to it you embrace your thanks in passing them into the tobacco without necessarily speaking out loud, but to actually give your mind and spirit together thankful for so many things… Unfortunately, because we’re trapped in this cash economy and this 9-to-5 [schedule], we can’t spend the normal amount of time on ceremonies, which would last four days for a proper Thanksgiving.
Do you regard Thanksgiving as a positive thing?
As a concept, a heartfelt Thanksgiving is very important to me as a person. It’s important that we give thanks. For me, it’s a state of being. You want to live in a state of thanksgiving, meaning that you use the creativity that the Creator gave you. You use your talents. You find out what those are and you cultivate them and that gives thanks in action.
And will your family do something for Thanksgiving?
Yes, we’ll do the rounds, make sure we contact family members, eat with friends and then we’ll all celebrate on Saturday at the social and dance together with the drum.
Related articles:
Latest copy Coin Celebrates 1621 Wampanoag Treaty
The Wampanoag Side of the First Thanksgiving Story


Being thankful means being appreciative, and being appreciative means being aware.

Stonehenge Beneath the Waters of Lake Michigan

Stonehenge Beneath the Waters of Lake Michigan

February 16, 2011
Has a Stonehenge like structure been discovered underneath the waters of Lake Michigan. If so, the site could be around 10,000 years old!
[Image: Standing stones beneath Lake Michigan? View larger].
In a surprisingly under-reported story from 2007, Mark Holley, a professor of underwater archaeology at Northwestern Michigan University College, discovered a series of stones – some of them arranged in a circle and one of which seemed to show carvings of a mastodon – 40-feet beneath the surface waters of Lake Michigan.
If verified, the carvings could be as much as 10,000 years old – coincident with the post-Ice Age presence of both humans and mastodons in the upper midwest.
[Image: The stones beneath Lake Michigan; view larger].
In a PDF assembled by Holley and Brian Abbott to document the expedition, we learn that the archaeologists had been hired to survey a series of old boat wrecks using a slightly re-purposed “sector scan sonar” device. You can read about the actual equipment – a Kongsberg-Mesotech MS 1000 – here.
The circular images this thing produces are unreal; like some strange new art-historical branch of landscape representation, they form cryptic dioramas of long-lost wreckage on the lake bed. Shipwrecks (like the Tramp, which went down in 1974); a “junk pile” of old boats and cars; a Civil War-era pier; and even an old buggy are just some of the topographic features the divers discovered.
These are anthropological remains that will soon be part of the lake’s geology; they are our future trace fossils.
But down amongst those otherwise mundane human remains were the stones.
[Image: The "junk pile" of old cars and boat skeletons; view larger].
While there is obviously some doubt as to whether or not that really is a mastodon carved on a rock – let alone if it really was human activity that arranged some of the rocks into a Stonehenge-like circle – it’s worth pointing out that Michigan does already have petroglyph sites and even standing stones.
A representative of the University of Michigan Museum of Paleontology has even commented that, although he’s skeptical, he’s interested in learning more, hoping to see better photographs of the so-called “glyph stone.”
[Image: The stones; view larger].
So is there a North American version of Stonehenge just sitting up there beneath the glacial waters of a small northern bay in Lake Michigan? If so, are there other submerged prehistoric megaliths waiting to be discovered by some rogue archaeologist armed with a sonar scanner?
Whatever the answer might be, the very suggestion is interesting enough to think about – where underwater archaeology, prehistoric remains, and lost shipwrecks collide to form a midwestern mystery: National Treasure 3 or Da Vinci Code 2. Even Ghostbusters: The Return.
But only future scuba expeditions will be able to tell for sure.
Certainly, there are more tests needed to be done to confirm these findings but if this actually turns out to be a man made object then it would place the building of the stones at around 10,000 years ago when the waters of Lake Michigan were much lower due to the glaciation of the area.  This time period would also coincide with the extinction of the mastodons in this area.  Several pictures of the mastodon are below.
U.S. archeologists find possible mastodon carving on Lake Michigan rock by Barry ORegan
Of course, there is a lot of skepticism with this so called Stonehenge like structure.  And the supposed mastodon carving is not too clear in any pictures as of yet.  There will need to be many underwater scuba investigations of the area before any of this can be confirmed.  One thing the area does have going for it is that there are numerous petroglyph sites and even standing stones.  The problem is that these ancient sites are much younger than when the Stonehenge site would have been above water so the questions will remain until better investigations are completed.
So, what is your opinion on these findings?  Are they just naturally placed rocks underneath the water and what appears to be a mastodon is just the odd shape of the cracks in the rock?  In my opinion, we need more information before a decision can be reached.  I am fascinated by these findings though and am utterly intrigued by the numbers of underwater structures we have been finding in the past several decades.  It certainly appears that our ancestors had many of their home territories flooded at the end of the last Ice Age and we are now just beginning to find these ancient ruins underneath the waters around the globe.  Who knows what awaits us underneath these waters to be discovered.  I, for one, cannot wait to see.( VIA)

Sunday, November 24, 2013

Elongated Skulls in Mexico

Recently a Precolumbian Cemetery was excavated in Sonora (Northern Mexico) where there were found the remains of 13 individuals with deformed skulls. While there has been publishee a lot of nonsense about them, alleging they were "Nephilim" or aliens, they were in fact ordinary human beings and and peculiarities about them stemming from the fact that their heads were deformed by cradleboarding (For example the allegation was made that cradleboarding does not increase cranial capacity while on the other hand there is ample evidence that it can do so-the inside of the cranium reacts to external pressure by building up fluid inside to help cushion the brain from stress. this increases the cranial capacity but does not increase the size of the brain. Some of the sutures also fuse, so that there is some nonsensical talk about such skulls having "Only one parietal plate")

INAH archaeologists located the first pre-Hispanic cemetery in Sonora,  a thousand years old.

 Infant burial. Shell bracelet and earrings.

Individuals [had clay pots] carrying ornamental objects such as shell bracelets.

One of the men was buried with a turtle shell placed at the level of the abdomen.

Detail turtle shell placed at the level of the abdomen.

[Human skull with] Cranial deformation and earring.

The pre-Hispanic cemetery is located 300 meters from the village of Onavas, Sonora. Design Gallery: Web page with photos of Cristina García archaeologist / INAH

Before going on about the "Single Parietal plate" I should pointout that the person that said the phrase was looking at a different set of skulls in a different place and had nothing to do with any of the deformed skulls found on this occasion. For an explanation, this is the parietal bone:

and there are normally a pair of them, one on either side of the head. When speaking of a "Single Parietal bone", these people mean that the medial suture at the top of the head has fused. As a matter of fact the only way these bones form is as paired bones on either side of the head, you cannot have only one of them form in the middle. Even the single frontal bone starts out as a pair of smaller bones which fuse together on the midline. In any event on the one skull illustration from this series, highlighted again at the top of this blog article, you can clearly see the outlines of the parietal bone all around its boundaries and there are clearly two parietal bones, one on either side of the head!