Deluge of Atlantis

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Tuesday, April 30, 2013

Stonehenge Much Older Than Previously Thought.

From Robert Kline's Global Warming and Terraforming Terra site. To be fair, we've had some of these very old C14 dates for some time now, the information was just not known by the general public, it was not publicised.

Stonehenge Occupied Since Eighth Millennia
Posted: 29 Apr 2013 12:00 AM PDT

In fairness, it was reasonable to expect as much since we know that the advent cattle husbandry began as early as the tenth millennia. This led directly to stable land ownership and boundaries and a natural need for monumental works.

The site then had to also be important as a population center long before the building of Stonehenge. This now becomes a fresh focus for new archeology. It is also a reminder of the productivity of cattle husbandry even by itself.

The more interesting question is just now crude were the astronomical alignments? Just aligning a couple of poles and observing shadows and sunrise each year will show long term predictable patterns easily discernible in a lifetime. All of this had agricultural value and was certainly applied.

I do not know when grain growing made its first appearance, but surely no later than the advent of the Bronze Age and its shipping. It would be nice to know just how far that may be pushed back.

Stonehenge was occupied by humans 5,000 years EARLIER than we thought


18 April 2013

Human beings were occupying Stonehenge thousands of years earlier than previously thought, according to archaeologists.

Research at a site around a mile from Stonehenge has found evidence of a settlement dating back to 7500BC, 5,000 years earlier than previous findings confirmed.

And carbon-dating of material at the site has revealed continuous occupation of the area between 7500BC and 4700BC, it is being revealed on BBC One's The Flying Archaeologist tonight.

Research at a site around a mile from Stonehenge has found evidence of a settlement dating back to 7500BC, 5,000 years earlier than previous findings confirmed

Experts suggested the team conducting the research had found the community that constructed the first monument at Stonehenge, large wooden posts erected in the Mesolithic period, between 8500 and 7000BC.

Open University archaeologist David Jacques and friends started to survey the previously-unlooked at area around a mile from the main monument at Stonehenge, when they were still students in 1999.

The site contained a spring, leading him to work on the theory that it could have been a water supply for early man.

He said: 'In this landscape you can see why archaeologists and antiquarians over the last 200 years had basically honed in on the monument, there is so much to look at and explore.

'I suppose what my team did, which is a slightly fresher version of that, was look at natural places - so where are there places in the landscape where you would imagine animals might have gone to, to have a drink.

'My thinking is where you find wild animals, you tend to find people, certainly hunter-gatherer groups, coming afterwards.

Research at a site around a mile from Stonehenge has found evidence of a settlement dating back to 7500BC, 5,000 years earlier than previous findings confirmed. And carbon-dating of material at the site has revealed continuous occupation of the area between 7500BC and 4700BC.

'What we found was the nearest secure watering hole for animals and people, a type of all year round fresh water source.'

He described the site as 'pivotal'.

Dr Josh Pollard, from Southampton University and the Stonehenge Riverside Project, said he thought the team may have just hit the tip of the iceberg in terms of Mesolithic activity focused on the River Avon around Amesbury.

'The team have found the community who put the first monument up at Stonehenge, the Mesolithic posts 9th-7th millennia BC.

'The significance of David's work lies in finding substantial evidence of Mesolithic settlement in the Stonehenge landscape - previously largely lacking apart from the enigmatic posts - and being able to demonstrate that there were repeated visits to this area from the 9th to the 5th millennia BC.'

The Flying Archaeologist is being shown on BBC One (West and South) at 7.30pm tonight.

Sunday, April 28, 2013

Maps of Columbus and the Ancient Sea Kings Maps (Piri Reis Continued)

Wikipedia on the Maps of Columbus:

Navigation plans
Europe had long enjoyed a safe land passage to China and India—sources of valued goods such as silk, spices, and opiates—under the hegemony of the Mongol Empire (the Pax Mongolica, or Mongol peace). With the Fall of Constantinople to the Turkish Ottoman Empire in 1453, the land route to Asia became more difficult. In response to this the Columbus brothers had, by the 1480s, developed a plan to travel to the Indies, then construed roughly as all of southern and eastern Asia, by sailing directly west across the "Ocean Sea," the Atlantic Ocean.
Washington Irving's 1828 biography of Columbus popularized the idea that Columbus had difficulty obtaining support for his plan because Europeans thought the Earth was flat.[10] In fact, the primitive maritime navigation of the time relied on the stars and the curvature of the spherical Earth. The knowledge that the Earth was spherical was widespread, and the means of calculating its diameter using an astrolabe was known to both scholars and navigators.[11]

Diameter of Earth and travel distance estimates

A spherical Earth had been the general opinion of Ancient Greek science, and this view continued through the Middle Ages (for example, Bede mentions it in The Reckoning of Time). In fact Eratosthenes had measured the diameter of the Earth with good precision in the 2nd century BC.[12] Where Columbus did differ from the generally accepted view of his time is his (very incorrect) arguments that assumed a significantly smaller diameter for the Earth, claiming that Asia could be easily reached by sailing west across the Atlantic. Most scholars accepted Ptolemy's correct assessment that the terrestrial landmass (for Europeans of the time, comprising Eurasia and Africa) occupied 180 degrees of the terrestrial sphere, and dismissed Columbus' claim that the Earth was much smaller, and that Asia was only a few thousand nautical miles to the west of Europe. Columbus' error was attributed to his insufficient experience in navigation at sea.[6]

The "Columbus map" was drawn circa 1490 in the workshop of Bartolomeo and Christopher Columbus in Lisbon.[13]

Handwritten notes by Christopher Columbus on the Latin edition of Marco Polo's Le livre des merveilles.
Columbus believed the (incorrect) calculations of Marinus of Tyre, putting the landmass at 225 degrees, leaving only 135 degrees of water. Moreover, Columbus believed that one degree represented a shorter distance on the Earth's surface than was actually the case. Finally, he read maps as if the distances were calculated in Italian miles (1,238 meters).[dubious ] Accepting the length of a degree to be 56⅔ miles, from the writings of Alfraganus, he therefore calculated the circumference of the Earth as 25,255 kilometers at most, and the distance from the Canary Islands to Japan as 3,000 Italian miles (3,700 km, or 2,300 statute miles). Columbus did not realize Alfraganus used the much longer Arabic mile (about 1,830 m).[citation needed]
The true circumference of the Earth is about 40,000 km (25,000 sm), a figure established by Eratosthenes in the 2nd century BC,[12] and the distance from the Canary Islands to Japan 19,600 km (12,200 sm). No ship that was readily available in the 15th century could carry enough food and fresh water for such a journey. Most European sailors and navigators concluded, probably correctly, that sailors undertaking a westward voyage from Europe to Asia non-stop would die of thirst, scurvy or starvation long before reaching their destination. Spain, however, having just completed the expensive Reconquista, was desperate for a competitive edge over other European countries in trade with the East Indies. Columbus promised such an advantage.
Europeans generally assumed that the aquatic expanse between Europe and Asia was uninterrupted. While hints of the American continent about Vinland were already surfacing in Europe, historians agree that Columbus calculated a too short distance from the Canary Islands to Japan by the standards of his peers.[citation needed]

Trade winds

There was a further element of key importance in the plans of Columbus, a closely held fact discovered by or otherwise learned by Columbus: the Trade Winds. A brisk westward wind from the east, commonly called an "easterly", propelled Santa María, La Niña, and La Pinta for five weeks from the Canary Islands off Africa. To return to Spain eastward against this prevailing wind would have required several months of an arduous sailing technique upwind, called beating, during which food and drinkable water would have been utterly exhausted. Columbus returned home by following prevailing winds northeastward from the southern zone of the North Atlantic to the middle latitudes of the North Atlantic, where prevailing winds are eastward (westerly) to the coastlines of Western Europe, where the winds curve southward towards the Iberian Peninsula. So he used the North Atlantic's great circular wind pattern, clockwise in direction, in both legs of his voyage.[14][15][16]

The strange coincidence of there actually being land where some of the maps Columbus was using said there would be land (as in the composite above, maps taken from just before and just ater Columbus' journey and mentioned  by name in earlier parts of this series) has struck many people as not coincdental at all, and in fact as downright suspicious. And in fact what is shown here is the way the Atlanteans (through the Egyptians and finally through Plato) described the situation. Quoting Donnelly about this below:

Atlantis, the Antediluvian World, by Ignatius Donnelly, [1882],
 Chapter IV, "Corroborating Circumstances" p. 172
4. Plato says that there was a "passage west from Atlantis to the rest of the islands, as well as from these islands to the whole opposite continent that surrounds that real sea." He calls it a real sea, as contradistinguished from the Mediterranean, which, as he says, is not a real sea (or ocean) but a landlocked body of water, like a harbor.
Now, Plato might have created Atlantis out of his imagination; but how could he have invented the islands beyond (the West India Islands), and the whole continent (America) enclosing that real sea? If we look at the map, we see that the continent of America does "surround" the ocean in a great half-circle. Could Plato have guessed all this? If there had been no Atlantis, and no series of voyages from it that revealed the half-circle of the continent from Newfoundland to Cape St. Roche, how could Plato have guessed it? And how could he have known that the Mediterranean was only a harbor compared with the magnitude of the great ocean surrounding Atlantis? Long sea-voyages were necessary to establish that fact, and the Greeks, who kept close to the shores in their short journeys, did not make such voyages.

With a little shuffling of the map elements we can reconstruct the Atlantean description of the North Atlantic Ocean as being as shown above. (The Azores went up when Atlantis/Antillia went down, but the convention of many such maps was to show both together. The islands of modern Indonesia were shown alongside Sundaland in the same way and probably by the same map cpmilers using the same reasoning) The scale is approximate but the impression is good. Below is the Juan de la Cosa map of 1500, directly after Columbus' voyages, indicated by the black outline above:

The earliest map known to incorporate information by Columbus and Amerigo Vespucci, and to recognise the existance of a New World is reproduced below. It seems to be something like the source for the Piri Reis map must have been and it was also discussed earlier.

 There do seem to be older maps of the world indicating the shape of what would be later recognised as the New World, but  presumably from before its discovery by columbus, incorporating this idea if a large funnel leading into a cul-de-sac in the Gulf of Mexico:it is possible the concept rus back to the Phoenicians and before, especially if the ideasof the "River Ocean" known to the Greeks was actually a description of the Gulf Stream, which has been hypothesized by both Atlantis theorists and by Precolumbian-contact theorists, especially in connection to the Phoenicians or Tartessians. The general concept was even known and illustrated by the early Mexicans when recounting their traditions to the Spanish Conquistadores. The top drawing is from Donnelly (last time) oriented as a conventional map (north attop) and illustrating Mexico  being approached from the West and the Gulf ofMexico as being at the end of this cul-de-sac: the lower is the same illustration as it was originally.
The following is another very early Postcolmbian map with "Antillia" now on the Western side of the new world and again being called "Japan". From now on the conventionalised island would be assumed to BE Japan (Cipangu) even though other maps sow a set of several large islands more properly. This map was later transcribed to one of the earliest antique globes, the Behaim globe, and made while Columbus' voyages were still going on:
 The shape of the Americas is possibly based on a Precolumbian tradition and possibly on something which would justifiably called one of the Maps of the Ancient Sea Kings: such conventionalised shapes are also shown on Carthaginian coins, and surprisingly, along with the top part of the even older map shown below it. I believe that incorporating both would be the specific form of the ancestral Portola chart and the ultimate source for the Mas of the Ancient Sea Kings. 


This map makes an attempt to show The Antipodes, from a Classical Greek theory about The Land On The Other Side of the World, ancestor to the concept of Terra Australis Incognita. And the "Known World" part is an Ice Age map! It shows glaciers in the places where we have Scandinavia and Tibet. And it indicates the vertically-placed Oriental shoreline which is characteristic of the SUNDALAND Maps of the Ancient Sea Kings. I imagine this information came by way of India but it has also been remarked that it bears a resemblance to certain maps native to and intending to show China and Japan, among other nations. The two-forked land area is highly suggestive of India+ Sundaland. Sumatra as "Taprobane" is sometimes shown in the gap between as an allowance since it does not appear on any maps which originally showed Sundaland.Hapgood misread this on some maps to be showing both the Indus and Ganges as arms of the sea with Southern India cut off from the mainland. The identity of "Taprobane" is a separate matter which we have delt with elsewhere.

So theoretically the protomap would show the Atlantic like this

And an Ice Age Oriental, Sundaland map like this
(with the other large island areas not placed very accurately in relationship to it)

So that it could be said that this version of a Ptolemy World Map would be the most accurate representation of what the original combined Maps of the Sea Kings maps would be. This would be about what Admiral Piri Reis would have understood as well. And there are word map descriptions of foreign lands which seem to correspond to a Ptolemic overall map such as these (Donnelly refers to such maps in his Atlantis book and critics have missed the reference. Such geographic knowkledge must have been known in India at a very early date)
James Churchward claims to have seen maps of remote places carved into rock in Western Tiubet with star positions indicating a date of about 10000- 15000 years old on them. This is actually possible since we do have Astronomical observations that old or older in the cave art of Europe and the Rock Art of the Sahara, and the date is close to one given by an Astronomer who was projecting bak from Classical and Egyptian sources. In the map above, Churchward claoms to have evidence og an inland sea in the Amazon River basin: to the contrary, it seems to be yet another version of North and South America with the Gukf of Mexico prominently indicated.  Churchward's extra lines have been removed from this version in order to simplify it. Presumably, such maps and such Geographic knowledge was brought ot of India in past millenia and then made into a permanent record in Tibet. It would be good to locate these records because the maps could very well be valuable evidence of Sundaland-Lemurian navigations during the Pleistocene Ice Age.

This is my earlier map showing my estimations for the Maps of the Ancient Sea Kings. The white area would be well-known and well0-charted bythe Atlantean Sea Kings, and they would be well aware enough of the continental/land area shown in paler grey. The other parts of the world are excluded and would have been mapped separately. Atlanteans knew of a Bering Land bridge and presumably when they settled in America they met overland travellers coming from the other way around. The white ara sould continue up to the point of Brazil as well. Note that going by this, the mapping of Antarctica (if any) would have come from other sources.

This is my new suggested map for the Sundaland Ancient Sea Kings, ca 10000-15000 years ago. in this case the green area is the homeland and well-known to them. The lighter grey areas are more vaguely known and if we allow that Churchward was telling the truth about his Tibetan rock art atlas, the Americas would also count in this category. The lighter blue seas were more familiar to them, including the areas around Antarctica. at the time there would be dense pack ice and giving the illusion that the two landmasses were connected: also there was extensive pack ice around much of the rest of Antarctica giving the illusion it was much larger (at the same time the glaciers were not in the same place we have Antarctic ice today and there could have been large aeas of exposed unglaciated land. And my presumption has always been that the particular attraction to Alaska was in its breeding grounds for whales: the tall ships of this era must have included whalers.

Ships of the Ancient Sea Kings

It has been suggested that the great sizes traditionally ascribed to ships of the "Noah's Ark" class would put them into the clas o the Ming Chinese ZhengHe Treasure Ships. From Sundaland at its height came monster Tall Ships such as these, and it was only because of these ships that they would have had an extensive knowledge of Ice Age world geography, including in such hostile environments such as existed around Antarctica. The ships of Atlantis would have been smaller BUT many of the traditions of the Great Flood specify that the survivors were saved by collossal craft such as these. A particular source for this information is the book Lost Survivors of the Deluge.

Saturday, April 27, 2013

Piri Reis, Atlantis, The Garden of Eden, and the Maps of Columbus

Portolan chart allegedly as used by Columbus. The Terrestrial Paradise or Garden of Eden is to the West of the Mediterranean and surrounded in concentric circular walls of different compositions and representing the orbits of the different planets using their astrological references to the planets (Sun=gold, moon=silver, Venus=copper, etc)

Now despite the opinions stated in the last part of the examination of the Piri Reis Map, the
circle-cross and circle-t maps were in fact long established as conventionalised maps of Atlantis under the guise of the Original Homeland, the Garden of Eden and the Terrestrial Paradise. Such representations definitely trace all the way back to the beginning of Ancient Egypt.To quote extensively from Donnelly's Atlanntis the Antediluvian World on the topic:



No fact is better established than the reverence shown to the sign of the Cross in all the ages prior to Christianity. We cannot do better than quote from an able article in the Edinburgh Review of July, 1870, upon this question:
"From the dawn of organized Paganism in the Eastern world to the final establishment of Christianity in the Western, the Cross was undoubtedly one of the commonest and most sacred of symbolical monuments; and, to a remarkable extent, it is so still in almost every land where that of Calvary is unrecognized or unknown. Apart from any distinctions of social or intellectual superiority, of caste, color, nationality, or location in either hemisphere, it appears to have been the aboriginal possession of every people in antiquity--the elastic girdle, so to say, which embraced the most widely separated heathen communities--the most significant token of a universal brotherhood, to which all the families of mankind were severally and irresistibly drawn, and by which their common descent was emphatically expressed, or by means of which each and all preserved, amid every vicissitude of fortune, a knowledge of the primeval happiness and dignity of their species. Where authentic history is silent on the subject, the material relics of past and long since forgotten races are not wanting to confirm and strengthen this supposition. Diversified forms of the symbol are delineated more or less artistically, according to the progress achieved in civilization at the period, on the ruined walls of temples and palaces, on natural rocks and sepulchral galleries, on the hoariest monoliths and the rudest statuary; on coins, medals, and vases of every description; and, in not a few instances, are preserved in the architectural proportions of subterranean
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as well as superterranean structures, of tumuli as well as fanes. The extraordinary sanctity attaching to the symbol, in every age and under every variety of circumstance, justified any expenditure incurred in its fabrication or embellishment; hence the most persistent labor, the most consummate ingenuity, were lavished upon it. Populations of essentially different culture, tastes, and pursuits--the highly-civilized and the demi-civilized, the settled and nomadic--vied with each other in their efforts to extend the knowledge of its exceptional import and virtue among their latest posterities. The marvellous rock-hewn caves of Elephanta and Ellora, and the stately temples of Mathura and Terputty, in the East, may be cited as characteristic examples of one laborious method of exhibiting it; and the megalithic structures of Callernish and Newgrange, in the West, of another; while a third may be instanced. in the great temple at Mitzla, 'the City of the Moon,' in Ojaaca, Central America. also excavated in the living rock, and manifesting the same stupendous labor and ingenuity as are observable in the cognate caverns of Salsette--of endeavors, we repeat, made by peoples as intellectually as geographically distinct, and followers withal of independent and unassociated deities, to magnify and perpetuate some grand primeval symbol. . . .
"Of the several varieties of the Cross still in vogue, as national or ecclesiastical emblems, in this and other European states, and distinguished by the familiar appellations of St. George, St. Andrew, the Maltese, the Greek, the Latin, etc., etc., there is not one among them the existence of which may not be traced to the remotest antiquity. They were the common property of the Eastern nations. No revolution or other casualty has wrought any perceptible difference in their several forms or delineations; they have passed from one hemisphere to the other intact; have survived dynasties, empires, and races; have been borne on the crest of each successive wave of Aryan population in its course toward the West; and, having been reconsecrated in later times by their lineal descendants, are still recognized as military and national badges of distinction. . . .
"Among the earliest known types is the crux ansata, vulgarly called 'the key of the Nile,' because of its being found sculptured or otherwise represented so frequently upon Egyptian and Coptic monuments. It has, however, a very much older and more sacred signification than this. It was the symbol of
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symbols, the mystical Tau, 'the bidden wisdom,' not only of the ancient Egyptians but also of the Chaldeans, Phœnicians, Mexicans, Peruvians, and of every other ancient people commemorated in history, in either hemisphere, and is formed very similarly to our letter T, with a roundlet, or oval, placed immediately above it. Thus it was figured
on the gigantic emerald or glass statue of Serapis, which was transported (293 B.C.) by order of Ptolemy Soter from Sinope, on the southern shores of the Black Sea, re-erected within that famous labyrinth which encompassed the banks of Lake Mœris, and destroyed by the victorious army of Theodosius (A.D. 389), despite the earnest entreaties of the Egyptian priesthood to spare it, because it was the emblem of their god and of 'the life to come.' Sometimes, as may be seen on the breast of an Egyptian mummy in the museum of the London University, the simple T only is planted on the frustum of a cone; and sometimes it is represented as springing from a heart; in the first instance signifying goodness; in the second, hope or expectation of reward. As in the oldest temples
and catacombs of Egypt, so this type likewise abounds in the ruined cities of Mexico and Central America, graven as well upon the most ancient cyclopean and polygonal walls as upon the more modern and perfect examples of masonry; and is displayed in an equally conspicuous manner upon the breasts of innumerable bronze statuettes which have been recently disinterred from the cemetery of Juigalpa (of unknown antiquity) in Nicaragua."
When the Spanish missionaries first set foot upon the soil of America, in the fifteenth century, they were amazed to find the Cross was as devoutly worshipped by the red Indians as by themselves, and were in doubt whether to ascribe the fact to the pious labors of St. Thomas or to the cunning device of the Evil One. The hallowed symbol challenged their attention
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on every hand and in almost every variety of form. It appeared on the bass-reliefs of ruined and deserted as well as on those of inhabited palaces, and was the most conspicuous ornament in the great temple of Gozumel, off the coast of Yucatan. According to the particular locality, and the purpose which it served, it was formed of various materials--of marble and gypsum in the open spaces of cities and by the way-side; of wood in the teocallis or chapels on pyramidal summits and in subterranean sanctuaries; and of emerald or jasper in the palaces of kings and nobles.
When we ask the question how it comes that the sign of the Cross has thus been reverenced. from the highest antiquity by the races of the Old and New Worlds, we learn
that it is a reminiscence of the Garden of Eden, in other words, of Atlantis.
Professor Hardwicke says:
"All these and similar traditions are but mocking satires of the old Hebrew story--jarred and broken notes of the same strain; but with all their exaggerations they intimate how in the background of man's vision lay a paradise of holy joy--a paradise secured from every kind of profanation, and made
inaccessible to the guilty; a paradise full of objects that were calculated to delight the senses and to elevate the mind a paradise that granted to its tenant rich and rare immunities, and that fed with its perennial streams the tree of life and immortality."
To quote again from the writer in the Edinburgh Review, already cited:
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"Its undoubted antiquity, no less than its extraordinary diffusion, evidences that it must have been, as it may be said to be still in unchristianized lands, emblematical of some fundamental doctrine or mystery. The reader will not have failed to observe that it is most usually associated with water; it was 'the key of the Nile,' that mystical instrument by means of which, in the popular judgment of his Egyptian devotees, Osiris produced the annual revivifying inundations of the sacred stream; it is discernible in that mysterious pitcher or vase portrayed on the brazen table of Bembus, before-mentioned, with its four lips discharging as many streams of water in opposite directions; it was the emblem of the water-deities of the Babylonians in the East and of the Gothic nations in the West, a


well as that of the rain-deities respectively of the mixed population in America. We have seen with what peculiar rites the symbol was honored by those widely separated races in the western hemisphere; and the monumental slabs of Nineveh, now in the museums of London and Paris, show us how it was similarly honored by the successors of the Chaldees in the eastern. . . .
"In Egypt, Assyria, and Britain it was emblematical of creative power and eternity; in India, China, and Scandinavia, of heaven and immortality; in the two Americas, of rejuvenescence and freedom from physical suffering; while in both hemispheres it was the common symbol of the resurrection, or 'the sign of the life to come;' and, finally, in all heathen communities,
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without exception, it was the emphatic type, the sole enduring evidence, of the Divine Unity. This circumstance alone determines its extreme antiquity--an antiquity, in all likelihood, long antecedent to the foundation of either of the three great systems of religion in the East. And, lastly, we have seen how, as a rule, it is found in conjunction with a stream or streams of water, with exuberant vegetation, and with a bill or a mountainous region--in a word, with a land of beauty, fertility, and joy. Thus it was expressed upon those circular and sacred cakes of the Egyptians, composed of the richest materials-of flour, of honey, of milk--and with which the serpent
and bull, as well as other reptiles and beasts consecrated to the service of Isis and their higher divinities, were daily fed; and upon certain festivals were eaten with extraordinary ceremony by the people and their priests. 'The cross-cake,' says Sir Gardner Wilkinson, 'was their hieroglyph for civilized land;' obviously a land superior to their own, as it was, indeed, to all other mundane territories; for it was that distant, traditional country of sempiternal contentment and repose, of exquisite delight and serenity, where Nature, unassisted by man, produces all that is necessary for his sustentation."
And this land was the Garden of Eden of our race. This was the Olympus of the Greeks, where
"This same mild season gives the blooms to blow,
The buds to harden and the fruits to grow."
In the midst of it was a sacred and glorious eminence--the umbilicus orbis terrarum--[The Omphalos]"toward which the heathen in all parts of the world, and in all ages, turned a wistful gaze in every act of devotion, and to which they hoped to be admitted, or, rather, to be restored, at the close of this transitory scene."
In this "glorious eminence" do we not see Plato's mountain in the middle of Atlantis, as he describes it:
"Near the plain and in the centre of the island there was a mountain, not very high on any side. In this mountain there dwelt one of the earth-born primeval men of that country,
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whose name was Evenor, and he had a wife named Leucippe, and they had an only daughter, who was named Cleito. Poseidon married her. He enclosed the hill in which she dwelt all around, making alternate zones of sea and land, larger and smaller, encircling one another; there were two of land and three of water . . . so that no man could get to the island. . . . He brought streams of water under the earth to this mountain-island, and made all manner of food to grow upon it. This island became the seat of Atlas, the over-king of the whole island; upon it they built the great temple of their nation; they continued to ornament it in successive generations, every king surpassing the one who came before him to the utmost of his power, until they made the building a marvel to behold for size and beauty. . . . And they had such an amount of wealth as was never before possessed by kings and potentates--as is not likely ever to be again."
The gardens of Alcinous and Laertes, of which we read in Homeric song, and those of Babylon, were probably transcripts of Atlantis. "The sacred eminence in the midst of a 'superabundant, happy region figures more or less distinctly in a]most every mythology, ancient or modern. It was the Mesomphalos of the earlier Greeks, and the Omphalium of the Cretans, dominating the Elysian fields, upon whose tops, bathed in pure, brilliant, incomparable light, the gods passed their days in ceaseless joys."
"The Buddhists and Brahmans, who together constitute nearly half the population of the world, tell us that the decussated figure (the cross), whether in a simple or a complex form, symbolizes the traditional happy abode of their primeval ancestors--that 'Paradise of Eden toward the East,' as we find expressed in the Hebrew. And, let us ask, what better picture, or more significant characters, in the complicated alphabet of symbolism, could have been selected for the purpose than a circle and a cross: the one to denote a region of absolute purity and perpetual felicity; the other, those four perennial streams that divided and watered the several quarters of it?" (Edinburgh Review, January, 1870.)
And when we turn to the mythology of the Greeks, we find
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that the origin of the world was ascribed to Okeanos, the ocean, The world was at first an island surrounded by the ocean, as by a great stream:
"It was a region of wonders of all kinds; Okeanos lived there with his wife Tethys: these were the Islands of the Blessed, the gardens of the gods, the sources of nectar and ambrosia, on which the gods lived. Within this circle of water the earth lay spread out like a disk, with mountains rising from it, and the vault of heaven appearing to rest upon its outer edge all around." (Murray's "Manual of Mythology," pp. 23, 24, et seq.)
On the mountains dwelt the gods; they had palaces on these mountains, with store-rooms, stabling, etc.
"The Gardens of the Hesperides, with their golden apples, were believed to exist in some island of the ocean, or, as it was sometimes thought, in the islands off the north or west coast of Africa. They were far famed in antiquity; for it was there that springs of nectar flowed by the couch of Zeus, and there that the earth displayed the rarest blessings of the gods; it was another Eden." (Ibid., p. 156.)
Homer described it in these words:
"Stern winter smiles on that auspicious clime,
The fields are florid with unfading prime,
From the bleak pole no winds inclement blow.
Mould the round hail, or flake the fleecy snow;
But from the breezy deep the blessed inhale
The fragrant murmurs of the western gale."
"It was the sacred Asgard of the Scandinavians, springing from the centre of a fruitful land, which was watered by four primeval rivers of milk, severally flowing in the direction of the cardinal points, 'the abode of happiness, and the height of bliss.' It is the Tien-Chan, 'the celestial mountain-land, . . . the enchanted gardens' of the Chinese and Tartars, watered by the four perennial fountains of Tychin, or Immortality; it is the hill-encompassed Ilá of the Singhalese and Thibetians, 'the everlasting dwelling-place of the wise and just.' It is the Sineru of the Buddhist, on the summit of which is Tawrutisa, the habitation of Sekrá, the supreme god, from which proceed the four sacred streams, running in as many contrary directions.
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[paragraph continues] It is the Slávratta, 'the celestial earth,' of the Hindoo, the summit of his golden mountain Meru, the city of Brahma, in the centre of Jambadwípa, and from the four sides of which gush forth the four primeval rivers, reflecting in their passage the colorific glories of their source, and severally flowing northward, southward, eastward, and westward."
It is the Garden of Eden of the Hebrews:
"And the Lord God planted a garden eastward ["in front of"] Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed. And out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil. And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads. The name of the first is Pison; that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold; and the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone. And the name of the second river is Gihon: the same is it that compasseth the whole land of Ethiopia. And the name of the third river is Hiddekel: that is it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river is Euphrates. And the Lord God took the man and put him into the Garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it." (Gen. ii., 8-1-5.)
As the four rivers named in Genesis are not branches of any one stream, and head in very different regions, it is evident that there was an attempt, on the part of the writer of the Book, to adapt an ancient tradition concerning another country to the known features of the region in which be dwelt.
Josephus tells us (chap. i., p. 41), "Now the garden (of Eden) was watered by one river, which ran round about the whole earth, and was parted into four parts." Here in the four parts we see the origin of the Cross, while in the river running around the whole earth we have the wonderful canal of Atlantis, described by Plato, which was "carried around the whole of the plain," and received the streams which came down from the mountains. The streams named by Josephus would seem to represent the migrations of people from Atlantis to its colonies.
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[paragraph continues] "Phison," he tells us, "denotes a multitude; it ran into India; the Euphrates and Tigris go down into the Red Sea while the Geon runs through Egypt."
We are further told (chap. ii., p. 42) that when Cain, after the murder of. Abel, left the land of Adam, "he travelled over many countries" before be reached the land of Nod; and the land of Nod was to the eastward of Adam's home. In other words, the original seat of mankind was in the West, that is to say, in the direction of Atlantis. [The parallel myth from Ugarit/Ras Shamra says that Paradise is in the far west, in the direction of Sunset, which is what the Egyptians stated-DD]Wilson tells us that the Aryans of India believed that they originally came "from the West." Thus the nations on the west of the Atlantic look to the east for their place of origin; while on the east of the Atlantic they look to the west: thus all the lines of tradition converge upon Atlantis.
But here is the same testimony that in the Garden of Eden there were four rivers radiating from one parent stream. And these four rivers, as we have seen, we find in the Scandinavian traditions, and in the legends of the Chinese, the Tartars, the Singhalese, the Thibetians, the Buddhists, the Hebrews, and the Brahmans.
And not only do we find this tradition of the Garden of Eden in the Old World, but it meets us also among the civilized races of America. The elder Montezuma said to Cortez, "Our fathers dwelt in that happy and prosperous place which they called Aztlan, which means whiteness. . . . In this place there is a great mountain in the middle of the water which is called Culhuacan, because it has the point somewhat turned over toward the bottom; and for this cause it is called Culhuacan, which means 'crooked mountain.'" He then proceeds to describe the charms of this favored land, abounding in birds, game, fish, trees, "fountains enclosed with elders and junipers, and alder-trees both large and beautiful." The people planted "maize, red peppers, tomatoes, beans, and all kinds of plants, in furrows."
Here we have the same mountain in the midst of the water
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which Plato describes--the same mountain to which all the legends of the most ancient races of Europe refer.
The inhabitants of Aztlan were boatmen. (Bancroft's "Native Races," vol. v., p. 325.) E. G. Squier, in his "Notes on Central America," p. 349, says, "It is a significant fact that in the map of their migrations, presented by Gemelli, the place of the origin of the Aztecs is designated by the sign of water, Atl standing for Atzlan, a pyramidal temple with grades, and near these a palm-tree." This circumstance did not escape the attention of Humboldt, who says, I am astonished at finding a palm-tree near this teocalli. This tree certainly does not indicate a northern origin. . . . The possibility that an unskilful artist should unintentionally represent a tree of which he had no knowledge is so great, that any argument dependent on it hangs upon a slender thread." ("North Americans of Antiquity," p. 266.)
The Miztecs, a tribe dwelling on the outskirts of Mexico, had a tradition that the gods, "in the day of obscurity and darkness," built "a sumptuous palace, a masterpiece of skill, in which they male their abode upon a mountain. The rock was called 'The Place of Heaven;' there the gods first abode on earth, living many years in great rest and content, as in a happy and delicious land, though the world still lay in obscurity and darkness. The children of these gods made to themselves a garden, in which they put many trees, and fruit-trees, and flowers, and roses, and odorous herbs. Subsequently there came a great deluge, in which many of the sons and daughters of the gods perished." (Bancroft's "Native Races," vol. iii., p. 71.) Here we have a distinct reference to Olympus, the Garden of Plato, and the destruction of Atlantis.
And in Plato's account of Atlantis we have another description of the Garden of Eden and the Golden Age of the world:
"Also, whatever fragrant things there are in the earth, whether roots, or herbage, or woods, or distilling drops of flowers and fruits, grew and thrived in that land; and again the cultivated
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fruits of the earth, both the edible fruits and other species of food which we call by the name of legumes, and the fruits having a hard rind, affording drinks and meats and ointments . . . all these that sacred island, lying beneath the sun, brought forth in abundance. . . . For many generations, as long as the divine nature lasted in them, they were obedient to the laws, and well affectioned toward the gods, who were their kinsmen; for they possessed true and in every way great spirits, practising gentleness and wisdom in the various chances of life, and in their intercourse with one another. They despised everything but virtue, not caring for their present state of life, and thinking lightly of the possession of gold and other property, which seemed only a burden to them; neither were they intoxicated by luxury; nor did wealth deprive them of their self-control; but they were sober, and saw clearly that all these goods were increased by virtuous friendship with one another, and that by excessive zeal for them, and honor of them, the good of them is lost, and friendship perishes with them."
All this cannot be a mere coincidence; it points to a common tradition of a veritable land, where four rivers flowed down in opposite directions from a central mountain-peak. And these four rivers, flowing to the north, south, east, and west, constitute the origin of that sign of the Cross which we have seen meeting us at every point among the races who were either descended from the people of Atlantis, or who, by commerce and colonization, received their opinions and civilization from them.
The Pyramid.--Not only are the Cross and the Garden of Eden identified with Atlantis, but in Atlantis, the habitation of the gods, we find the original model of all those pyramids which extend from India to Peru.


If the reader will turn to page 104 of this work he will see, in the midst of the picture of Aztlan, the starting-point of the Aztecs, according to the Botturini pictured writing, a pyramid with worshippers kneeling before it.
[This is another inverted map, South is the direction at the top. The man in the boat is coming to Mexico out of the East where the island is situated. The rectangle is comparable to the Europeran map's representations of Antillia and Plato's description of Atlantis as having an 'Oblong" shape-DD]
Fifty years ago Mr. Faber, in his "Origin of Pagan Idolatry," placed artificial tumuli, pyramids, and pagodas in the same category, conceiving that all were transcripts of the holy mountain which was generally supposed to have stood in the centre of Eden; or, rather. as intimated in more than one place by
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the Psalmist, the garden itself was situated on an eminence. (Psalms, chap. iii., v. 4, and chap. lxviii., vs. 15, 16, 18.)
The pyramid is one of the marvellous features of that problem which confronts us everywhere, and which is insoluble without Atlantis....

Which does go to show that the circle-cross world view is a transposition of the symbol for Atlantis as an island in the middle of the "River Ocean" into a repeated glyph meaning "Inhabited World" and it is part of the Atlantean cultural complex. But it is not a literal depiction of Atlantis as a whole it is a reference to two characteristic features of Atlantis: the  main city or multi-walled enclosure (concentric circles symbol alreaduy known as reproduced throughout the area, both as an actual settlement plan and as a common Megalithic symbol) and the "Four Rivers" as representing the irrigated plain of Atlantis, whith the criss-cross plan denoted by a simple cross set to the four directions (also carried over into the plan of the main city, which was connected up to the irrigation and travel canal grid). And what is more, the symbol is traditionally connected to agricultural products (breads and cakes) with a religious purpose from Ancient Egypt on. Which is to say the plan had an agricultural connection and that the ritual observance had to do with Agriculture deriving from Atlantis. But since it is not a literal meaning to the shape it cannot have anything to do with Antarctica! The actual shape of Atlantis as depicted on the Ancient Sea Kings Maps was different and was more usually a rectangle ("Oblong" according to Plato)

Schematic map illustrating Columbus' theory of sailing West to get to the Orient.
Below, reconstruction of First Map of Columbus.

               Toscanelli, 1474, the original for the theory Columbus had about sailng West to go East.

Part of the problem that happened at this point was that a large rectangular island regularly shown in the Mid-Atlantic was suddenly identified as Japan (Cipangu) and thus the drawings which had been called Antillia before were now used to illustrate the more poorly-understood islands representing Japan. The confusion is remarked upon by Charles Hapgood in reference to the Piri Reis map in Maps of the Ancient Sea Kings and he provides this comparison chart:

Ancient Sea Kings Maps of Atlantis, marked varuiously as Antillia and Cipangu
(Japan) and indicated on the Piri Reis Map as "Cuba"-the first version  at left here
 associates it with the Garden of Eden (The two human figures maning Adam and Eve)
Note that the Garden of Eden in this first case is again a circle and it is off to one side from the main island ("Eastward in Eden", this would be East when South is at the top) and that on a direct line from the circle there is a good clear depiction of a nice pyramidal mountain (A volcanic cone). This would be the real depiction of the situation, with the circle island being a small part of the main rectanguar island rather than the whole larger island having a circulart plan (The Thera-is-Atlantis theory also fails in that it counts the circle-island as "Atlantis" per se)
 Below, an earlier chart said to be used by Toscanelli as a source map 

The representation of an island situated at the mouth of the Mediterranean (later usually called Antillia) is a very ancient conventionalisation running back to Greek and Roman days and said to be based on information provioded by the Phoenicians. It continued to be depicted regularly on hundreds of charts of the Atlantic for most of our history although the landmass does not correspond to any land area located in the mid-Atlantic during the Holocene(the modern period after the Ice Age ended).

       Below is one of the better presentations of the Maps of the Ancient Sea Kings idea incorporating the idea that Antillia on these maps represents an original Atlantis sea chart (Discussed on this blog earlier). The Atlantis version Maps of the Ancient Sea Kings charts seem to have been very accurate maps of the Mediterranean and slightly less accurate charts of Glaciated Northern Europe, plus apparently at least the Eastern shorelines of America in the mid-Atlantic states on South to Peru. At the same time there is a long tradition of the same conventionalised Eastern Asia as has been suggested to represent a Sundaland based set of Maps of the Ancient Sea Kings charts of the Ice Age coasts of the Far East. A more complete discussion of the matter follows in the sequel article coming up next.

One of the early charts representing "That Island", presumed by Firman
 to be a representation of Ice-age Atlantis.
This map would be more complete by also incorporating the circle-city as part of the design, probably halfway along the coast and opposite to the straits of Gibralter. However we do have the documentation of that from other sources and it does not have to be shown on every map.

Friday, April 26, 2013

Europe's Dynamic Genetic History, from Global Warming and Terraforming Terra

Europe's Dynamic Genetic history

Quoting from Robert Kline's site Global Warming and Terraforming Terra

Posted: 25 Apr 2013 12:00 AM PDT

The unexplained period of genetic turnover surely coincides with the emergence of Bronze Age technology which certainly spread village to village by a natural apprenticeship program. This brought in the advanced technology as well as the genes. A similar thing happened during the Middle Ages with the movement of Judaism which brought improved commercial skills. [In this case, the article notes that the Bronze Age originated in Tartessian Iberia and included the ancestors of the later Celtic-speaking peoples. The Tartesssians themselves seem to have been an amalgam of early Celts with another even older native Western European Agricultural group.-DD]
That also explains how these shifts actually take place. Skilled young men move onto the next attractive community and provide skills while marrying directly into the community itself. It is not an invasion because that does not provide a secure welcome. It is slower though, and will last for centuries. It is more a case of the communities pulling rather than a community pushing.

Recall also that stable farm communities tend toward local intermarriage which naturally lowers welcome hybrid vigor. Thus attracting fresh young men is important to the health of the community.

Also note that this map reveals something important. The two populations of Protoeuropeans in both Scandinavia and the Balkans. This conforms completely to the Danian migration that took place immediately after 1159 BC bringing with it the stories of Homer from the Baltic. This migration was driven by the collapse of agriculture for twenty years. [Although there is little doubt that such events actually occured, these are C14 dates that have been questioned as inaccurate before. There is great uncertainty in getting an exact date for the Catastrophic horizon. In Central Europe the climate changes linked to the Catastrophe have been labelled by the German term 'Klimasturze', as noted by Immanuel Velikovsky.-DD]


Ancient DNA reveals Europe's dynamic genetic history

Published: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 – 15:25 in Paleontology & Archaeology

Ancient DNA recovered from a series of skeletons in central Germany up to 7,500 years old has been used to reconstruct the first detailed genetic history of modern Europe. The study, published today in Nature Communications, reveals a dramatic series of events including major migrations from both Western Europe and Eurasia, and signs of an unexplained genetic turnover about 4,000 to 5,000 years ago.

The research was performed at the University of Adelaide's Australian Centre for Ancient DNA (ACAD). Researchers used DNA extracted from bone and teeth samples from prehistoric human skeletons to sequence a group of maternal genetic lineages that are now carried by up to 45% of Europeans.

The international team also included the University of Mainz in Germany and the National Geographic Society's Genographic Project.

"This is the first high-resolution genetic record of these lineages through time, and it is fascinating that we can directly observe both human DNA evolving in 'real-time', and the dramatic population changes that have taken place in Europe," says joint lead author Dr Wolfgang Haak of ACAD.

"We can follow over 4,000 years of prehistory, from the earliest farmers through the early Bronze Age to modern times."

"The record of this maternally inherited genetic group, called Haplogroup H, shows that the first farmers in Central Europe resulted from a wholesale cultural and genetic input via migration, beginning in Turkey and the Near East where farming originated and arriving in Germany around 7,500 years ago," says joint lead author Dr Paul Brotherton, formerly at ACAD and now at the University of Huddersfield, UK.

ACAD Director Professor Alan Cooper says: "What is intriguing is that the genetic markers of this first pan-European culture, which was clearly very successful, were then suddenly replaced around 4,500 years ago, and we don't know why. Something major happened, and the hunt is now on to find out what that was."

The team developed new advances in molecular biology to sequence entire mitochondrial genomes from the ancient skeletons. This is the first ancient population study using a large number of mitochondrial genomes.

"We have established that the genetic foundations for modern Europe were only established in the Mid-Neolithic, after this major genetic transition around 4,000 years ago," says Dr Haak. "This genetic diversity was then modified further by a series of incoming and expanding cultures from Iberia and Eastern Europe through the Late Neolithic."

"The expansion of the Bell Beaker culture (named after their pots) appears to have been a key event, emerging in Iberia around 2800 BC and arriving in Germany several centuries later," says Dr Brotherton. "This is a very interesting group as they have been linked to the expansion of Celtic languages along the Atlantic coast and into central Europe."

"These well-dated ancient genetic sequences provide a unique opportunity to investigate the demographic history of Europe," says Professor Cooper.

"We can not only estimate population sizes but also accurately determine the evolutionary rate of the sequences, providing a far more accurate timescale of significant events in recent human evolution."

The team has been working closely on the genetic prehistory of Europeans for the past 7-8 years.

Professor Kurt Alt (University of Mainz) says: "This work shows the power of archaeology and ancient DNA working together to reconstruct human evolutionary history through time. We are currently expanding this approach to other transects across Europe."

Genographic Project director Spencer Wells says: "Studies such as this on ancient remains serve as a valuable adjunct to the work we are doing with modern populations in the Genographic Project. While the DNA of people alive today can reveal the end result of their ancestors' ancient movements, to really understand the dynamics of how modern genetic patterns were created we need to study ancient material as well."

Atlantis Information from Turkish-Language Internet Sites

Atlantis Plato's Timaeus and Critias the legendary sunken continent and civilization.

Translation from Turkish by Google

[Since we are talking about the Turkish Piri Re'is map it is interesting to peruse some of the Turkish-language sites concerning the Antediluvian world, the former Atlantis and Mu]

A reconstruction for Atlantis. On the walls are mounted showy plates of metals, bronze and copper, and bridges go over the water zones. The background also must be filled with many more of the square agricultural paddies that support the Empire richly with fruits of the Earth as provided from the combined labour of countless workers.

 According to Plato, Atlantis located "beyond the Pillars of Hercules,"  conquered many parts of Western Europe and Africa 9,000 years before the time of Solon (about 9500 BC) trying to conquer Athens, but it could not be accomplished overnight uygarlıktırr sinking into the ocean. Plato's dialogues, Atlantis embedded in a story, often a myth created by Plato in his political theory is to explain. Although there are a lot of prominent academics, aim for the Atlantis story, the story of Plato is a moot point how much of the old stories are compiled. Some scholars of Plato's story, some of the items that constitute Thera volcano eruption or the Trojan War, defending some of the BC 373'te actual destruction or BC Helike'nin Between 415-413 inspired by actual events, such as Athens, failed to defend the invasion of Sicily. BC Conversation with a philosophy of Socrates in 421 Athenian statesman Kristias house, grandparents Dropides'in legend narrated to him the story. Grandfather, the famous Greek poet conveys the story Solon'dur Dropides'e. Period in which the source is located in Solon met in Egypt by an Egyptian monk, and Friar Atlantis to the events of BC Was realized in 9000. According to Plutarch, the priest who taught Solon'a name of the city of Sais was Sonchis. According to Clemens of Alexandria, an Egyptian priest who taught at the same time the name of Pythagoras. Plato and Kritias, as well as Solon'la were unrelated. In addition, he also visited Egypt and stayed a few years and had been initiated. For him, the issue before writing some Atlantologlar his Atlantis, collected information about this idea. Plato (magenta), according to this continent was ruled by a very rich and noble people. Buried in the waters of the ocean as a result of a disaster. Qur'an "Name tribe," he goes, Ad-land, which means Land of the Name. Some researchers Hebrew, indicating that the first man, and the man from the word "Adam", the Sanskrit word for "first start meaning" which is the name given to the human species, and the first to speak Aryenler'in "Ad-i", the Phrygians "Attis" Caucasian "Adige", Polinezyada'daki "atea", Troy's story "Ate", the Aztec mitolosindeki "Atzlan" (small island) and the Turkish language "name", "beach", "horse" (which means father in many languages ) with the words "Name" of the people of the etymology of the name is thought to be a link. James Churchward stated that a colony of Atlantis, the legendary Mu civilization. Found in Tibet as an officer in the British Army officer, then travels throughout the world, and has carried out research. James Churchward in 1883, in a monastery in western Tibet to face the day increased the most important of these documents. Churchward in Tibet, as an employee, according to research on the origins of the old religions, wandering around the monasteries in Tibet, and this is the way the monastery has fallen to a monastery in [?]eastern Tibet, Great Fraternity of Priests of the head priest of the leading members of the Rishi showed Churchward the Naacal tablets, said to be written 15 thousand was  years ago .

 Ramses III. Ramses printed texts and the islands of the Atlanteans the world's largest piece of land on the end of the water department, told the ninth generation to come. 9 The generation of ancient Egypt, Greece and Rome, 52 geographical segment is used to 57 Bölgedir.Ünlü between the northern latitudes is quite an amazing way of Egyptian art historian Renan There is insistence that the period of youth he was expressing skepticism about the Egyptian civilization: Egypt, as if it never existed in this country in the period of youth, at the outset, mature, old and mythological and heroic seems to be completely devoid of dawn. The infancy of the art of the ancient Egyptian civilization, and there is no period. Egyptian civilization at that time more mature. Herodotus, the 'Euterpe' in his book on the history of the priesthood of Egypt went up to 12 thousand years sets its time. So Atlantis sunset kadar.5400 years ago, Egypt flask (Aswan), the city was built in exactly the flask walls were encountered in the bottom of the Tropic of Cancer, the sun Solstice full time, lunch time, the walls of the sun into a complete disc was seen reflected out. Nowadays, the whole of Europe were to join together scientists may not like this one Keneally says the historian, the book of God in his work. American researcher Robert Sarmast Critias Plato's famous dialogues and expressed Timaeus'da physical marking based on the work of about 50 arc Cyprus and the shores of the Eastern Mediterranean Levantine basin slid described. Location in relation to the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) has prepared maps and databases of this information is not sufficient advantage of seeing the world-renowned geophysicist Dr Sarmast. John K. Hall went on to cooperate with. Dr. Hall, Sarmast'a ship in the 1980s, the Russian oil conveyed by the digital data collected from the eastern Mediterranean seafloor. NOAA and dr. Combining data from the three-dimensional region from Hall Sarmast and bathymetric (depth measurement unit) released maps. Atlantis by Sarmast'a Cyprus, Syria was the sinking of the continent's highest point of the present Cyprus.
Google Earth Image. The Seamounts indicated are suspected to have been above sea level recently and have been investigated by Jacques Costeau for this reason, and there are those that discern the works of man in carved stones upon these former islands. This could be the Southern part of the former Island of Atlantis.

The Discovery Of Atlantis Atlantis known work is that it strengthens the findings and the reasons for the region said. many volcanic movements, often in the Atlantic Ocean takes place. In 1957, a new island with mountains lights appeared near the Azores. Gigantic Earthquakes killed 250,000 people in 526 in Antioch, in 1042 in Tabriz, Iran 40,000 people, 830,000 people in China, 1556, 1908, Messina, Sicily 200000 people, 200,000 people in the vicinity of Tokyo in 1923 and in 1976, 700,000 people lost their lives in severe earthquakes in China . As for the Huang Ho river floods in China in 1887 led to the deaths of at least two millions. 4 million people in 1931, led to the death of the same river overflow. Glacial giver. F. According to GW Sjostrom [Earth movements] and the water level is lower in the last ice age is sufficient reason [to allow] for the existence of Atlantis. According to the researcher's thesis is based on an extensive study of these two periodic ice ages in the long history of the world has created a chain of volcanic eruptions. According to some geological traces of ice covered all the continents, the water levels rose to go. According to the argument put forward by the winner and one is still up to date, with the sinking of Atlantis was blocked by the high mountains of her before reaching the warm Gulf Stream northern Europe led to melting of the ice. Still in spite of our ongoing moderate latitude where it keeps the temperature of the hot in Europe. However, much colder climates cities in Russia are located at the same latitude. northern Siberia under the ice there are tens of thousands of frozen mammoth bodies. This is the end of the last century ivory mamutlardan removing at least 20,000 placed on the market in very good condition recorded. It is clear that mammoths were a mass disaster victims. Mammoths died in a sudden freezing and some of the herbs that dinner was found still in their mouths. Carbon-14 tests indicate they died about 12,000 years ago. Professor Frank C. Hibben says from the end of the last ice age in North America 40 million animals are killed in this circuit. Niagara waterfalls are calculated to begin formation in America 12,500 years ago. [Eruptions and uplifts in the ]Cordilleras mountains came in about 10,000 years ago [in both North and South America]. According to Carbon-14 tests, which are currently under the sea, a large region of Bermuda at around 11,000 years ago had the cedar forests. In the same way close to the North Sea to England, Ireland and Greenland boylamış forests near the bottom of the sea is the bottom of the sea thousands of years ago. Most of these events agrees with the history of Atlantis at its sinking.

Sacred Books of Atlantis, 1947; Qumran near the Dead Sea in the cavern roll inscriptions, the
earliest examples of literature in the Hebrew Bible forms. According to an inscription found Noah had a different physics. So much so that his own father was the son of Lamech, and despite the urging of his wife did not believe Bartenoş'un oath. Noah "Caregivers of the Holy Ones, or giants" but the descendants of the angels did not learn anything "grandfather Enoch ( Idris ) believed that after a consultation. the Bible ( Old Testament and New Testament / Bible ) the book of Enoch from place to place is mentioned. centuries, and stored in two different copies of this book are extracted from corpus of sacred texts, one of the Slavonic languages ​​bulunarak recently a Russian monastery has been preserved. Name Enok'un (Idris) Book of Secrets. Enok'un this book heaven by God after removing the sky 360 saw and later wrote a book, and describes the floors of hell. Enok'un second and much longer in the Book of books. Nephilim giants and they were here before the flood, and they are not sufficient to collapse during the reign of consuming food people eat their man writes. This book references to this kind of religious circles, disturbed (San Augustine, City of God), and this book is the removal of the Old Testament corpus, an Abyssinian in 1772 by James Bruce until there is a monastery for centuries, had reason to statue is missing.
Akashic readings attempt to provide scientific evidence with any degree of accuracy Atlantis, Atlantis detailed descriptions of the famous names who have so far about Atlantis, based on the information given about the readings of Edgar Cayce, and Rudolf Steiner's akashic. Dzyan Another source in the books of the ancient Book of the East. Cayce and Steiner statements made ​​independently of human By showing condensation and solidification of the type of state that have evolved and Atlantis talk about at length in the two groups fought dissenting. Cayce Sons of the Law of God is one of the two groups, and the other Belial (Satan, the devil, Þerr) calls the sons. Battles Belial holds nuclear power Sons were concluded in favor of the first group are advanced in the spiritual realm, however, revealed that the continent will sink them, they have preferred to migrate to the continent with those who are connected.

A much longer and more detailed Turkish site on Atlantis, Mu and Lemuria (the latter two being counted as separate) and Antediluvian giants is at:

At sometime I shall lkike to reproduce portions of it but as can be seen from the quality of the translation given above, this shall take some work. However it does include  this very interesting map as well as substantially the same information as given on other Internet sites, together with the Islamic reading of the material.The natives of Lemuria are for example spoken of as Jinn. This reading of the material does not interfere with the interpretation of Atlantis being an Antediluvian island much as envisioned by Donnelly, plus the interesting information that the pre-Flood Eastern Asia was what had been known as Mu: and the heartland of Mu turns out to have been Sundaland. Please refer to the map below. And if Lemuria was a large sea area with small parts land, and inhabited bt Demons and Jinn, then that part need not concern us in this study.

The Map indicates an "Out of Africa" movement by way of Arabia (Mecca): this, too, is allowable.

The Giants were also said to be the product of the sinful Antediluvians, in the same way the Bible gives us to understand their origin, with the Nephilim being the result of mortal women mating with the fallen Angels or "Sons of God". This may be read allegorically but the main thing at this point is to draw attention to the physically verifiable facts given in these accounts. This is one of the giant skulls from Lubbock cave, according to the Turkish site following the last link and going along with the map..