Sunday, March 27, 2011
Y-Chromosome DNA and the Last Atlantean Migration Into Europe
World Y-Chromosome DNA map. Surprisingly, the Western-European R group is a descendant from and an outgrowth of the Native American Q group. This is some of the genetic evidence that the Megalthic culture settling in Western Europe beginning at the End of the Ice Age (the "Iberian"Azilians of Lewis Spence) were descendants of Soulutrean Colonists in America that had been living as Clovis PaleoIndians in the interrim
Y-Chromosome evidence, The Male Line in Celtic/Megalithic heritage Message #272 at Dale's Atlantis Files group on Yahoo, Wednesday July 9, 2008.
Genetic similarities between Europeans and American Indians
Archaeologists are just beginning to realize that to understand European prehistory, American prehistory must also be considered. The Solutreans of Spain are now believed to have crossed the Atlantic using the southern Equatorial current and entered the Caribbean and Central America between 18,000 and 12,000 years ago to become known as the Clovis hunters of America. Recent genetic findings suggest that the people now known as Gaelic speaking Celts (including Irish, Welsh, Scots, Basques and Berbers) are a remnant of a group of people who also left Spain between 1,8000 and 12,000 years ago and spent 6,000 years isolated from Europe before returning, bringing the Megalithic culture to coastal Europe. Geneticist Prof Steve Jones, who recently published a book called Y - The Descent of Man, said; "Genetics provided more reliable clues to the distant past than language did". He and colleagues at University College, London, have spent years creating a genetic map of the Y chromosome, which is passed by males from generation to generation. The results show that the Welsh are related to the Basques of northern Spain and southern France and to native Americans. He said: "There has been much less interbreeding in Wales than you might expect. Wales and Ireland have the most homogenous group of males of anywhere in the world, from the research that's been done so far". He said; "The Y chromosome common among Welsh males was an ancient one. Most native Americans have the same one. Surprisingly perhaps, the genetics show that the Welsh are not related to the Cornish, despite the similarity of their languages. The Cornish are in effect Anglo-Saxons who for a time used a language that was hanging around. The genes of Scottish males betrayed considerable inter-mixing with outsiders". James Wilson and Prof David Goldstein of University College London, with colleagues at Oxford University and the University of California, found that Welsh and Irishmen are genetic blood-brothers of the Basque people. "The findings provide the first direct evidence of a close relationship between the people known as Celts and the Basques. The gene patterns of three races passed down through the male line are all strikingly similar, researchers concluded. Basques can trace their roots back to the Stone Age and are one of Europe's most distinct people, fiercely proud of their ancestry and traditions. The team looked for similarities between the Y chromosomes (which are only carried by men) they sampled DNA from; 88 "Celtic fringe" individuals from Anglesey, North Wales, 146 from Ireland with Irish Gaelic surnames, and 150 Basques, revealing "remarkable' similarities. On the other hand, he and his colleagues compared Celtic and Norwegian populations and found them to be quite different. The Celts carried the early Y chromosome, which provides the first clear evidence of a close relationship in the paternal heritage of Basque and Celtic speaking populations. "They were statistically indistinguishable', we also noticed that there's something quite striking about the Celtic populations, and that is that there's not a lot of genetic variation on the male Y-chromosome, We conclude that both the Basques and Celts are reflecting pre-farming Europe. Somehow these people have remained in isolation from the rest of Europe up until the Bronze age where their genes begin to indicate an influx of female genes from mainland Europe" said Prof Goldstein. The other scenario is that these people were not living in Europe, but were in the Caribbean, the East Coast of [North and South] America and on [Ice-age]islands in the Atlantic.
[This does make sense in the chronology of the Solutrean crossing: these very old Basques&Celts by the Y-line evidently were in occupation of some area away from Europe in 16000 to 10000 BC, which makes sense by Solutrean&Clovis chronology. They took up occupation in Western Europe again in 10000 to 4000 BC, agreeing with the appearance of the Megalithic culture AND with Plato's story of Atlantis. Colin Wilson pointed out that irregardless of how we take Plato's story, the fact remains that it genuinely describes the origin and spread of Megalitghic culture in Western Europe and is a real possibility for that reason alone. 10000 BC is actually a legitimate "First-Megalithic" date for cut- stone caves (tholoi) and drystone burial cists, in both Spain and Italy as well as North Africa, and later in Palestine. The oldest Megalthic site in Turkey (Golbek Tepe) is about that old. --
Best Wishes, Dale D.]